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Erik Owenmark




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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jul, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Need help dating sword         Reply with quote

Hello,

I have a sword here which I need help to date. Any help is appreciated.

http://img161.imageshack.us/i/bild1v.jpg/
http://img441.imageshack.us/i/bild2k.jpg/
http://img263.imageshack.us/i/bild3.jpg/

Thanks in advance,
Erik


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Roger Hooper




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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jul, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Offhand, I would say it is a modern or maybe 19th century replica of a 17th century northern european campaign sword. 1620 - 1680
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Allan Senefelder
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jul, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Some close up shots of constructional details would help out, things like the hilt, the gaurd, if there are any markings on the blade those too. I'll withhold a date call without more close up shots but would agree on norther European 17th century. Alot of illustrated material from the 30 Years War shows Swedes with swords of this type.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jul, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, for starters, treat it real nice, buy it some oil and go really, really slow.


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Adam S.





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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jul, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michael Edelson wrote:
Well, for starters, treat it real nice, buy it some oil and go really, really slow.


(sorry, couldn't help it)



Maaaaaaaan, Michael. You totally beat me to it! Razz *Sigh* I'll have to be quicker on the draw next time! Cool

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Don Stanko




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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The fuller on the blade is not typical for that hilt design. It seems to run almost the entire length of the blade and is quite broad. Not that this combination isn't possible, it just not very common. I love the design of the pommel, it looks to balance out the large blade very nicely. Its a very attractive sword!

ps. any markings on the blade?
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul, 2009 7:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think that might be the real deal, ca. 1650, perhaps with a shortened blade of significantly earlier date. Continental. Maybe Dutch. Closer photos really would be helpful.
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Erik Owenmark




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PostPosted: Fri 17 Jul, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for your answers.

Michael Edelson and Adam S.: Don't worry about the treating, I've got some nice oil for it.

Don Stanko: It handles really nice, very balanced. I really like it.

My father who gave the sword to me a couple of years ago talked to the people in Livrustkammaren (Royal Armoury) in Stockholm, Sweden, who said it was from northern Germany, late 16th or early 17th century.

I will try to get better/closer pictures as soon as possible (with some luck today...). Anything special I should try to get pictures of, or just the hilt and guard in general? I don't have the sword here, but I can't recall any markings on the blade, will check next time I have it in my hands.

Regards,
Erik

P.S. Hope you don't have too much trouble reading my English.
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