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Ushio Kawana




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PostPosted: Tue 24 Mar, 2009 3:03 am    Post subject: Very simple question. (a mystery armor)         Reply with quote

Hi Happy

I use the Wikipedia well. And I have doubt...

For example... I examine it about a "sabaton(solleret)".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaton

In the section of "Components of medieval armour"
I watch the illustration of the armor which is lots holed.

The details of this armour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ren%C3%A9_d...%A8cle.jpg

It is described as follows:
Rene d'Anjou Livre des tournois France Provence XVe siecle BNF {{PD-art}} Category:Illuminated manuscripts Category:Medieval miniature

I think that probably it is the illustration of manuscripts of the 15th century.
However, I do not know it in detail.

What is this armour??? Question



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Matt Easton




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PostPosted: Tue 24 Mar, 2009 3:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It is a special armour for fighting in tournaments with wooden clubs. So the armour does not need to protect against thrusts, only from heavy impacts. So this armour is designed to be lighter and cooler for that purpose.

Matt

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Ushio Kawana




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PostPosted: Tue 24 Mar, 2009 3:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Mr. Matt Easton!

> It is a special armour for fighting in tournaments with wooden clubs.
> So the armour does not need to protect against thrusts, only from heavy impacts.
> So this armour is designed to be lighter and cooler for that purpose.
I understood. Happy

Tournaments with wooden clubs ... It is drawn on this illustration?



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Matt Easton




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PostPosted: Tue 24 Mar, 2009 9:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes, that's it.

They also used special kinds of blunt swords:

http://www.thearma.org/essays/sticks.jpg

http://www.randyasplund.com/browse/medieval/c...ne%206.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...27Eyck.jpg

Look for Renee d'Anjou's tournament book (Livre des Tournoi), which shows all this equipment:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...7Eyck2.jpg

Some of those special helmets survive also - for example:

http://www.modaruniversity.org/BFS-Devices/Ba...Helm-2.gif

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Mar, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dang, a question I could actually answer correctly and look smart for a fleeting moment and someone else goes and answers it. Big Grin
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Ushio Kawana




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PostPosted: Wed 25 Mar, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

to Mr. Matt Easton.
Thank you for a detailed commentary. Happy

I found this page...
http://www.princeton.edu/%7Eezb/rene/renebook.html#Body
Hereafter follows the fashion and style of the bascinet, the cuir boulli and the crest.
"And to see the principal and best fashion for tourneying, drawn here below is a perforated cuirass in the best and most appropriate fashion and style possible for the tourney. "

There was the same image(wikipedia) and your same commentary was written.


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