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Gabriele Becattini





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PostPosted: Wed 18 Feb, 2009 7:53 am    Post subject: windlass-1840 Non Commissioned Officer Sword         Reply with quote

hello,

i would like to know if you can tell me something about this procuct, i'm wondering if it could be a decent

choice for spadroon fencing, it look quite nice and i have found it for a price of about 80 dollars.

thank you

gabriele



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Morgan Butler




PostPosted: Wed 18 Feb, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Make sure that its combat ready. Kult of Athena usually has a listing of all that are and all that aren't. you can also try
http://www.militaryheritage.com/swords.htm but I dont know about the combat worthiness of them. Look for Spadroon replicas on e-bay as well.
Tell me more about spadroon fencing though, I am interested. Who are you doing it with, what kind of particular forms are you using?

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Gabriele Becattini





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PostPosted: Wed 18 Feb, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

HI Morgan,

during some research about the military sabre and the scottish/english broadsword i have found something about the

spadroon,

from what i have seen it share some similarities with the other two weapons, mainly the cuts the points , and some of the guards,

if you are interested check:

C.Roworth "the art of defence on foot with broadsword and sabre"

D.McBane "The expert sword-man's companion or the true art of self defence"

for the moment i have never been able to find it on-line, i have also a short introductory to the spadroon techniques,

i can send it to you by mail.

Gabriele
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Morgan Butler




PostPosted: Wed 18 Feb, 2009 10:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here are some spadroon threads you might enjoy:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...highlight=

and


http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p...ht=#129801

I know I enjoyed them!

inkothemgard!
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Peter Lewis





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PostPosted: Wed 18 Feb, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: windlass-1840 Non Commissioned Officer Sword         Reply with quote

I own one of these swords and I must say it is more like a long knife than a sword, and it is not a sword i would ever use in a battle due to the fact that the blade is to thin and light in my view.
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Gabriele Becattini





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PostPosted: Thu 19 Feb, 2009 3:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

interesting links Morgan, and full of great photos,

from what i can see you already knows the manuals i have cited in my previous post, have you found some of them on-line?
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David Teague




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PostPosted: Thu 19 Feb, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

While I don't know if the Windless blade could be made to work I do know if 2 places that make fencable blunt Spadroons

Darkwood and Alchem

The Alchem sword is a small sword hilt that you can get built with a Spadroon style blade.

Cheers,

DT'

P.S I too would like to take up the Spadroon.

This you shall know, that all things have length and measure.

Free Scholar/ Instructor Selohaar Fechtschule
The Historic Recrudescence Guild

"Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou's sword art is with me; Thy poleaxe and Thy quarterstaff they comfort me."
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Morgan Butler




PostPosted: Thu 19 Feb, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gabriele Becattini wrote:
interesting links Morgan, and full of great photos,

from what i can see you already knows the manuals i have cited in my previous post, have you found some of them on-line?



Just little samples here and there. I ended up with a small English Spadroon collection and did some rooting around for info. The Spadroon is a popular sword for antique collectors. If you end up taking any photos of people engaging in Spadroon play I hope you'll share them.

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Gabriele Becattini





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PostPosted: Thu 19 Feb, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

David,

i agree with you, till now all the practice blades i have are from Darkwood Armoury and i'm perfectly satisfied with it ,

the spadroon pictured in their website look interesting.

Morgan,

unfortunately the spadroon fencing material looks very difficult to find , for the moment i have never seen someone using it,
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Jonathan Hopkins




PostPosted: Thu 19 Feb, 2009 8:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think you may find some information here:

http://www.sirwilliamhope.org/

You could contact them to inquire about manuals.

Jonathan
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Li Jin




Location: NYC
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Feb, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: About this sword         Reply with quote

Hi Mr.Becattini

I own this sword made by MRL, the NCO 1840. maybe is just me but this sword, from the pommel to the guard, its all made of brass, the pommel is peened. The problem is, it gets very loose at the guard, I can feel the blade moving, only reason is not falling apart is because its peened. For this sword, I think is good for this price, just not gonna sharpen it and cut anything, maybe for drill for fun.

Maybe is just me, maybe I had a bad luck getting one of these cheaply made sword by MRL, maybe you ought to be lucky to get a better quality one.
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Li Jin




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PostPosted: Mon 23 Feb, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

O my fault for not reading your comments. I mean this sword is combat ready, it had a pretty sharp point, so is good for military drills reenactment but not for fencing. Maybe you ought to get a Sport fencing saber or a hanwei fencing saber, there are three types of hanwei sabers.
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