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PostPosted: Mon 16 Feb, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Show us your fullers         Reply with quote

I'm a big lover of fullers in swords, especially multiple fullers. This thread is an invitation to show off your favorite pictures of multiply fullered swords (historic or reproduction). I have included my two Type XX swords - one by Arms and Armor, the other by Patrick Barta.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Feb, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is a photo of my Albion Sovereign, showing off its double fuller
Also, one of the first swords I ever bought, Del Tin's DT5156



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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:
Here is a photo of my Albion Sovereign, showing off its double fuller
Also, one of the first swords I ever bought, Del Tin's DT5156


Thanks Roger - I have always wanted to see the Sovereign in person.
I know this must have been discussed before, but was XIV.6 from Records an inspiration for the Sovereign?
I thought hard about buying one of those Del Tin's around 6 or 7 years ago.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

One of the things that interests me about the fullered swords (other than just how cool they look) is how the fullers affect the handling characteristics. The Barta sword above feels very light, but still quite stiff. I'm assuming this is in part because of the deep fullers that run (almost all of) the length of the blade.

The A&A sword on the other hand is pretty heavy, but still quick, with a lot of its weight concentrated in the ricasso section. The fullers cutdown on the mass there somewhat, but it is still thick and massive, and the sword seems to pivot around that section in use.



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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 5:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here are a couple of other I like that I collected while thinking about a possible custom project...
They are probably from the photo albums here - I don't remember. I always liked the fact that the blade was as interesting detail wise as the hilt in these complicated swords.



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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 7:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Gordon, would it be possible to to see a pic. of the transition of the middle fuller ending? This is a blade design that have really liked and have been thinking about giving a try, I just haven't been able to find any good shots of how this kind of cross section is done.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 8:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gus Trim MM Type XII with accent fullers



Del Tin 5152



Early 17th c Broadsword

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 10:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gordon Clark said
Thanks Roger - I have always wanted to see the Sovereign in person.
I know this must have been discussed before, but was XIV.6 from Records an inspiration for the Sovereign?
I thought hard about buying one of those Del Tin's around 6 or 7 years ago



I think the Sovereign was mainly patterned after Records XIV.8, the sword that may have been owned by the French King Philip IV. It has some elements of XIV.6, mainly the double fuller. I like XIV.8 much better, and it certainly weighs less that the other sword which comes in at 4.8 lbs! - a real boat anchor.



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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Another interesting fuller pattern - a German sword from around 1620. A little too much clam shell for my taste


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 12:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michael Pikula wrote:
Hi Gordon, would it be possible to to see a pic. of the transition of the middle fuller ending? This is a blade design that have really liked and have been thinking about giving a try, I just haven't been able to find any good shots of how this kind of cross section is done.


Michael
You mean for the Barta sword, not the A&A one - right?
I don't have a good close up, but maybe you can get some info from these:
The middle fuller ends definitely and the outside ones sort of flow around the terminus and then run side by side to close to the end of the blade.
Sorry this is fuzzy - I'll take a close up shot next time I have a chance.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 12:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Is it just me, or does the Sovereign shown earlier look to have the Albion 'museum' line maker's mark on it?
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes, That is what I was looking for! Thanks Gordon. I have been trying to picture how the profile and distil taper affect the flow of the lines and the geometry of this fuller combination and I have to say it has kept me up many a night. Those images are certainly the best I've seen and everything seems to make a little more sense. Wonderful blade by the way!
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 12:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Do you mean the mark used for the Museum Lines swords? If it's a Sovereign, it should have the little "a" mark for the Next Generation series. If it has a crown on the "a" then that would make it somewhat of a anomaly as well as a collectible because it would be mis-marked unless there is some history I'm not aware of.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 12:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Abe Zettek wrote:
Is it just me, or does the Sovereign shown earlier look to have the Albion 'museum' line maker's mark on it?


I looked at my Sovereign and you're right - it is stamped with the Albion Museum line "a" with a crown over it. FWIW, it was one of the first batch made of that model, and the Sovereign has always been a Next Gen.

I wonder, does this make my sword more valuable, like the old U.S. postage stamp with the misprinted upside-down airplane? Big Grin
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:
Abe Zettek wrote:
Is it just me, or does the Sovereign shown earlier look to have the Albion 'museum' line maker's mark on it?


I looked at my Sovereign and you're right - it is stamped with the Albion Museum line "a" with a crown over it.

I wonder, does this make my sword more valuable, like the old U.S. postage stamp with the misprinted upside-down airplane? Big Grin



Naw. You have a defective Albion. Send it to me and I will make sure you get a corrected replacement .

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ah, cool! I thought that's what it looked like, and I know the Sovereign is a next gen. ( I have one coming this month), so I thought it was weird. Must be rare... I wonder if anyone else has had a similar 'misprint' ?
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Although I don't have one of my own, I'm forever indebted to Sean for doing this review of my favorite sword for over a year.

http://www.myArmoury.com/review_ebe_hanger.html



Don't know why, but it just calls to me. Maybe it's the combination of a wicked curve and the triple fullers.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:

I looked at my Sovereign and you're right - it is stamped with the Albion Museum line "a" with a crown over it. FWIW, it was one of the first batch made of that model, and the Sovereign has always been a Next Gen.

I wonder, does this make my sword more valuable, like the old U.S. postage stamp with the misprinted upside-down airplane?


Forgive me for veering sharply off-topic, but here is a picture of that famous 1918 US postage stamp showing the upside-down Curtiss JN-4, known as the Inverted Jenny. I heard that it was auctioned off in 2005 for $525,000.00.

Do you think I can get that much for my mis-marked Sovereign? Getting excited now Eek!



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PostPosted: Wed 18 Feb, 2009 1:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's the blade from my Vince Evans' S-hilt Claymore, with stamping.....


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Feb, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

And here's my Erik Stevenson Regimental S-hilt claymore, with Gus Trim blade....


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