Info Favorites Register Log in
myArmoury.com Discussion Forums

Forum index Memberlist Usergroups Spotlight Topics Search
Forum Index > Off-topic Talk > Weaponry Research Sites Reply to topic
This is a standard topic  
Author Message
Robert Paredes





Joined: 12 Feb 2009

Posts: 3

PostPosted: Thu 12 Feb, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Weaponry Research Sites         Reply with quote

I need to do a five page research report on hand-to-hand combat weapons of 16th century Western Europe (That means Germany/Italy on west). I was wondering if anyone knew the best sites for doing research into the weapons.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Nathan Robinson
myArmoury Admin


myArmoury Admin

PostPosted: Thu 12 Feb, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I suggest myArmoury.com Happy
.:. Visit my Collection Gallery :: View my Reading List :: View my Wish List :: See Pages I Like :: Find me on Facebook .:.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Robert Paredes





Joined: 12 Feb 2009

Posts: 3

PostPosted: Thu 12 Feb, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

:O


I did not notice the plethora of information on this site. o_o
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Nathan Robinson
myArmoury Admin


myArmoury Admin

PostPosted: Thu 12 Feb, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

There is a ton of content on this site. You found the forums. There is a ton of info related to your subject right here on the forums.

Right next to the links that lead to the forums are links that lead to other parts of the site.


The navigation bar has these sections:

Features * Reviews * Collections * Albums * Forums * Books

Each of these sections has valuable content fairly unique on the Internet.


This is from our home page and it includes a descriptions of much of what we offer:


.:. Visit my Collection Gallery :: View my Reading List :: View my Wish List :: See Pages I Like :: Find me on Facebook .:.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
M. Eversberg II




Location: California, Maryland, USA
Joined: 07 Sep 2006
Reading list: 3 books

Spotlight topics: 1
Posts: 1,435

PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

They tell you 16th Century, and expect it to fit within five pages? Teachers these days!

Best of luck.

M.

This space for rent or lease.
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger ICQ Number
Sean Flynt
myArmoury Team


myArmoury Team

Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Joined: 21 Aug 2003
Likes: 10 pages
Reading list: 13 books

Spotlight topics: 7
Posts: 5,886

PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb, 2009 8:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Suggestions:

Stick with military arms (as opposed to civilian weapons)

1. The Sword
2. The Halberd
3. The Dagger

That will cover the main edged weapons used in close-quarters personal combat on the 16th c. battlefield and give you a little more than one page for each subject plus half a page each for intro and conclusion. Minus fluff and with economy of words (always good,) I think you could present a decent overview in the given space.

-Sean

"Everywhere I have searched for peace and nowhere found it, except in a corner with a book"- Thomas a Kempis (d. 1471)
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Nat Lamb




Location: Melbourne, Australia
Joined: 15 Jan 2009
Likes: 1 page

Posts: 385

PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

And if you find you can't get it down to 5 pages... footnotes are your friend, since they don't count towards world limit....
View user's profile Send private message
Greg Coffman




Location: Lubbock, TX
Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Reading list: 4 books

Posts: 254

PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It seems like you are looking at the Holy Roman Empire. Who uses the weapons is another aspect to consider. One direction to go would be with the professional soldiers in the 16th century, the landsknechts, who used the pike, halberd, katzbalger, dagger. Another direction would be to look at the weapons of the renaissance martial arts system with which any good German would be familiar: the longsword, messer/dusack, quarterstaff/halberd, dagger, and rapier/side-sword/cut & thrust). Joachim Meyer (http://www.thearma.org/pdf/JoachimMeyer.htm) and Paulus Hector Mair (http://www.thearma.org/Manuals/Mair/Mair.htm) were two Important German fight masters who wrote fight books in the 16th century. Even Albrecht Durer did a fight book (http://www.thearma.org/Manuals/Duerer.htm).

Pike: pike squares supported by arquebuses and halberds were the primary infantry formation throughoutt the 16th century. So the pike was the primary battlefield weapon.
Halberd: the all-purpose polearm of the day, used extensively on the battlefield and a main component of the German martial arts of the renaissance.
Staff: quarter staff is analogous to the halberd and the long staff is analogous to the pike.
Longsword: arguably the primary sword in use during the 16th century. The longsword was the central weapon of the martial arts systems. It did not see as much use on the battlefield by infantry troops, such as the landsknechts who prefered the katzbalger, but was still carried by knights and served as an important side-arm off the battlefield.
Katzbalger: the prefered side arm of the German professional infantry, the landsknechts.
Dagger: an important arm both on an off the battlefield. Everybody carried a dagger and it is important in the martial arts teachings (along with wrestling).
Messer: a carry-over weapon from the 15th century. All-purpose tool and weapon but used in battle less and less. The place of the messer in 15th century martial arts was taken over by the dusack.
Dusack: basically a messer with a knuckle guard. Some people interpret the dusack to be just a training tool for the messer. Either way, shorter curved swords with complex hilts continue to be used throughout the 16th century and especailly in central Europe (Hungary).
Rapier/cut&thrust/side-sword: There is the one-handed cutting sword, the 'true' rapier without substantial cutting edge, and then everything in between. The highly tapered, thrusting sword became more and more prevalent as the 16th century wore on and all of these swords became known as "rapiers." But the one-handed sword that could both cut and thrust equally well did not go away until sometime in the 17th century. Due to the broad spectrum of blades in this category and the fact the they were all called the same thing, it is hard to make a distinction between cut&thrust and rapier. Certainly, some swords fall squarely in the middle. Yet the swords at either end of the spectrum are extremely different weapons.

So there is an overview of the normal selection of weapons. If I was going to just pick four, I would say that the most important are the longsword (b/c its the most important sword overall), pike (b/c it's the primary battlefield weapon), halberd (b/c it's the most important polearm on or off the battlefied overall), and rapier (b/c it is the wave of the future). Start with this link (http://www.myArmoury.com/feature_euroedge.html) if you are unfamiliar with the terms. You can run a search in the forums for more particular information. Wikipedia is another place to start for an overview. If you can't find specific information, then ask and we will be glad to provide more details if possible.

For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
-Hebrews 4:12
View user's profile Send private message
Eric Bergman




Location: Illinois
Joined: 04 Nov 2004

Posts: 11

PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb, 2009 4:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That would be an interesting paper. Of course contrasting the early 16th with the later 16th could be interesting as well such as the increase in handguns while forgoing the lance amongst the mounted troops/aristocracy.
View user's profile Send private message
Robert Paredes





Joined: 12 Feb 2009

Posts: 3

PostPosted: Wed 25 Feb, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks! It's western Europe only, and I'm focusing on the Swords, daggers, and pole arms. Finding information is difficult though. I'm keeping it military only.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail


Display posts from previous:   
Forum Index > Off-topic Talk > Weaponry Research Sites
Page 1 of 1 Reply to topic
All times are GMT - 8 Hours

View previous topic :: View next topic
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum






All contents © Copyright 2003-2018 myArmoury.com — All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum