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James Cunniffe




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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Red Gur Swords         Reply with quote

Hello to all

Has anybody bought a sword from Red Gur (sword-gur.com)
They seem like a very well made swords at a very low price.
If anybody has one of his swords or any information on his weapons
i would like to hear your views on them.


Thank much

James C

Though the pen is mightier than the sword,
the sword speaks louder and stronger at any given moment.
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Anders Backlund




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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb, 2009 10:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Can't say I know anything about this company..

Though, their products kinda have the same look as those of fellow Czech sword makers Lutel. I wonder if there's any connection.

The sword is an ode to the strife of mankind.

"This doesn't look easy... but I bet it is!"
-Homer Simpson.
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James Cunniffe




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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have read one review on Red Gur AKA Jan Motycka at SBG.
There are Czech blades but i dont know if he has any connection with Lutel.

Though the pen is mightier than the sword,
the sword speaks louder and stronger at any given moment.
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J.D. Crawford




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PostPosted: Wed 30 Sep, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

He recently had a photo of an interesting viking sword hilt 'On Stock' on his web site: http://www.sword-gur.com/

I e-mailed him several times saying that I would like to buy it, and asking to see a picture of the whole sword, but never got a response. Some times e-mail disappears in strange ways, but I never had such problems before in ordering a sword and I was disappointed to say the least. Evidently someone else bought it because the picture disappeared.

I wonder if anyone else has had a more positive experience with Red Gur?
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Aleksei Sosnovski





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PostPosted: Wed 30 Sep, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have a 1.5-handed sword made by this bladesmith. There should be my review on SBG forum. In two words, a good sword if you are satisfied with weight. My sword weighing 1.7..1.8 kg is heavier than what people usually want, but it works very well for me because I needed a "war sword" that would pack a good punch and could withstand rigors of reenactment armored combat (I try to use proper techniques, but unfortunately not all my opponents know how to properly deflect an incoming blow or stop it with crossguard instead of blocking it with edge Mad ). And there are a lot of authentic 1.5-handed swords that weigh more than mine.

Oh, almost forgot. Yes, the bladesmith has some problems with answering emails. I usually waited for about a week to get a response and sometimes had to send same email twice.

Hope this info helps.
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Vaclav Homan




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Motyčka is well known producer. He make standardized blades, indastrial production standardize components, without forging, heavy and resistand.
Disadvantige are weight (sword 1,4kg pro one hand and 1,7kg is heavy for practice ) delivery date bad communication.
Advantage is indestructible, price and very individual design. Motyčka swords recognise enyone.

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Eric Hejdström




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2009 12:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have one of his 1½ handers and despite the grip being a bit too short for my taste it's still a very good sword! It can take a beating far better than Lutel or Pavel Moc (I have from both these too). It's tad bit frontheavier than the moc but lighter and better than the Lutel. The blade itself is of better quality than the Lutel blades I think. I haven't used the singlehanders he make but the 1½hander I have can be used as a large onehand weapon for a rider without too much effort. In general it's lots of bang for the buck. I've used mine for several years of HEMA practice and is satisfied with it.
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David Etienne




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2009 1:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello,

Can those who have a sword from sword-gur give us more informations about the hilt construction ? Is the pommel peened or threaded? Is the tang welded (like many Del Tin)?

Cheers,

David
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Risto Rautiainen




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My 1,5 hander has a threaded pommel. Nowdays he makes 'em peened. All the pros and cons are listed already on this thread. Here are some of my views.

-bad communication (doesn't get all the emails he should)
-sometimes late on commission
-the handle on the standard swords is a bit short

+I like the handling
+I wouldn't say forward weighted at all
+cheap
+sturdy

Plus when I sent him exact measurements for a custom sharp sword, he made it almost just as specified (one of two mm off where it really doesn't matter) for less money than anyone I know in the business. When I get the scabbard ready for this one I'll send some photos. But it will take a while before I have time to finish it.

So if you really know what you want, you can get good quality from him, if you remember to specify your needs.
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Eric Hejdström




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2009 4:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have to agree with Risto. My sword is peened and after three years of abuse it's still tight without any rattling in the hilt what so ever. I bought my sword from another source for wich Jan made a series of identical swords but with another marking but the place from wich I bought it reacted the same way about communication.

Otherwise I think Risto stated all the necessary data. If you're in the market for a simple and good onehander this is a very good coice. I have quite large hands so the grip on the longswords is a bit too small for me but yet comfortable, It's more a question of taste than function.
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Risto Rautiainen




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Eric Hejdström wrote:
If you're in the market for a simple and good onehander this is a very good coice.


Did you mean one-and-a-half hander? Because I've heard that the onehanders are quite heavy for their size. What should be noted is that they are also quite flexible because of their flat crossection. So if you have a certain style of sword in mind (like one with a narrow and thick blade) then the off the rack models might not be for you.
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Anders Backlund




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2009 6:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Some of them do look like Lutel's models, but there are some I've never seen before. A few of them look really pretty, too.

Need to keep this one in mind if I ever feel I want a longsword or something.

The sword is an ode to the strife of mankind.

"This doesn't look easy... but I bet it is!"
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Michael Eging




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2009 7:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

On the assembly, does he do a compression fit with the peen? I had a Del Tin assembled by Albion and they peened the pommel and the cross guard firmly in place before assembling the grip and it is sturdier than anything I had used to date.
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Aleksei Sosnovski





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PostPosted: Fri 02 Oct, 2009 1:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michael Eging wrote:
On the assembly, does he do a compression fit with the peen? I had a Del Tin assembled by Albion and they peened the pommel and the cross guard firmly in place before assembling the grip and it is sturdier than anything I had used to date.


On my sword the pommel seems to be screwed on but I never managed to unscrew it (though I tried really hard). Everything is rock solid. I think he can make peened pommels too if asked to.
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