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Myles Mulkey





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PostPosted: Fri 17 Oct, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Finland in the Iron Age         Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I was wondering what was going on in Finland during the Iron Age, and more specifically in the 6th and 7th centuries. What sorts of swords and axes were being made and/or imported there? And how settled were the Finns at this time? My understanding is that they were adopting farming in the early Iron Age, whereas the rest of Scandinavia had adopted it in the Bronze Age. But I really don't know! Big Grin Any input you have is great.
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Myles Mulkey





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PostPosted: Fri 17 Oct, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Also, could anybody give me the rundown on these two early swords? They're forged to that shape, no? Or were they bent for burial? By the way, I am aware of this post on Finnish swords (http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=13390) but I was more interested in any axe finds and also in the general mode of living these people had adopted.


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Myles Mulkey





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PostPosted: Sat 18 Oct, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Come on! Happy I know there are some Finns on this forum!
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John Cooksey




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Oct, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Myles Mulkey wrote:
Also, could anybody give me the rundown on these two early swords? They're forged to that shape, no? Or were they bent for burial? By the way, I am aware of this post on Finnish swords (http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=13390) but I was more interested in any axe finds and also in the general mode of living these people had adopted.


Got a date on those, and a find place?

They sure look a lot like Scytho-Sarmatian akinakes, from the Kuban.[/i]

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James R.Fox




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Oct, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sirs-I agree that the swords look as though they were bent for burial. Also they do look like anakies of the scythian period.
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Myles Mulkey





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PostPosted: Sun 19 Oct, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

They are akinakes, and the only info I have is that they were from 300 B.C. Finland. They were just a curiosity of mine. Happy I really want to find out more about Migration and Pre-migration Period Finland. Any info on the sword below? It's a reproduction from a maker in Finland, who says it's a "merovingian period" find from Finland. This is closer to the period I'm interested in, so any info would be awesome!
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Myles Mulkey





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PostPosted: Sun 19 Oct, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Myles Mulkey wrote:
They are akinakes, and the only info I have is that they were from 300 B.C. Finland. They were just a curiosity of mine. Happy I really want to find out more about Migration and Pre-migration Period Finland. Any info on the sword below? It's a reproduction from a maker in Finland, who says it's a "merovingian period" find from Finland. This is closer to the period I'm interested in, so any info would be awesome!


Sorry guys, but I couldn't get the attachment to post. I'll keep trying! In the mean time, lets get some things said about axes. Were they using the fransisca-type axes common to western europeans? Or perhaps some other type?
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Myles Mulkey





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PostPosted: Mon 20 Oct, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's the Migration sword that I mentioned.


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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It looks well preserved for a sword that old. Nice.
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S. Christiansen




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PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
It looks well preserved for a sword that old. Nice.


It's a patinated reconstruction by JT Pälikkö. Happy

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Myles Mulkey





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PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

S. Christiansen wrote:
Luka Borscak wrote:
It looks well preserved for a sword that old. Nice.


It's a patinated reconstruction by JT Pälikkö. Happy


That's correct, but I was wondering if anyone had any info on the original sword on which it's based. I apologize if I made it sound like this was the original sword. Happy
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

There is a brief description of the prehistory of Finland in Christiansen's The Northern Crusades , which is well worth looking at. Basically, the economy of the people varied from the southern and coastal areas to the harsher inland climate; but all of the people were to varying degrees dependent on hunting/trapping as opposed to farming. They might be mostly settled in a territory, or partly or almost fully nomadic. Even the more settled groups were sparsely distributed. Finland was only marginal farming land, it seems, given the techniques of the Iron age. I have no idea of what the indigenous Finnish weaponry was, but settlement by Swedes led to the use of the kind of weapons found elsewhere in Scandinavia.
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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

S. Christiansen wrote:
Luka Borscak wrote:
It looks well preserved for a sword that old. Nice.


It's a patinated reconstruction by JT Pälikkö. Happy


I saw your earlier post too late. Still, it's a nice sword. :-)
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