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What is your favorite general form of medieval European dagger or knife?
Ballock dagger
18%
 18%  [ 39 ]
Baselard
14%
 14%  [ 30 ]
quillon dagger
21%
 21%  [ 46 ]
Ear dagger
5%
 5%  [ 11 ]
Rondel dagger
26%
 26%  [ 57 ]
Knife
6%
 6%  [ 14 ]
Other (please specify with a post)
7%
 7%  [ 16 ]
Total Votes : 213

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Nathan Robinson
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Aug 25: myArmoury.com news and updates         Reply with quote

Today's update:


Arms & Armor Aunlaz Dagger

A hands-on review by Chad Arnow


Arms & Armor Medieval Knife

A hands-on review by Chad Arnow


Arms & Armor Aunlaz Dagger

Added to Chad's collection


Arms & Armor Medieval Knife

Added to Chad's collection


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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have to vote "other" because my favorite would be a parrying dagger, with downcurved or s-shaped quillons, a side ring and a longish two-edged blade- maybe 12-14". Something along the lines of the A&A Musketeer Dagger, or their German Parrying Dagger, but with a longer blade. Sweet!

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm not really a big dagger fan but I suppose it would be the quillon dagger.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Voted for other, while seax might be under the topic of knife, it really feels like its own thing. Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Being a proud Irishman l'd have to say a skean, Oh and happy birthday myArmoury.com
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I voted "ballock dagger", but I'm including it's descendent, the Scottish Dirk, among the type. Alba go Bragh! Laughing Out Loud
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

At the moment I'm very interested in utilitarian messers of the hauswehr/bauernwehr type. One rarely sees reproductions but they're all over German artwork of the late 15th and early 16th centuries.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think this says it all (this was actually one of my earliest posts at myArmoury, apologies for the awful photo):

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I would say Bowie knife... but, you know, not European (although a great many bowie patterns were exported from England and the Continent to the US back in the day).

But parrying daggers are pretty awesome too.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Aug, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm actually kind of a fan of the cinquedea. The traditional daggers here in Crete are quite stunning as well, but they have more of an eastern feel.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Aug, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

For my favorite type of European dagger, I selected 'Other.'

I've always been partial to the so-called main gauche (or does this qualify as a quillon dagger?). Some are extremely elaborate! Even ones that aren't so fancy are still eye-catching in their own right and all can be used as a regular dagger or large knife.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Aug, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I voted for the quillon type. I like the rondel and the ballock, too, but it's the quillons that really tug at me. In fact I've been eyeing the Aunlaz since last February when Craig posted it as a highlighted item. Of the three pictured in the attachments, I have the one on the top, the center one is on my short list, and the bottom one is on order. These pics came from Vladimir Cervenka's website and I encourage you to have a look.

Great contest, Nathan! Thanks for doing this!
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Aug, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The seax is definitely my favourite knife but it's not really medieval, so I put in a vote for the quillon dagger.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Aug, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

D. Bell wrote:
The seax is definitely my favourite knife but it's not really medieval, so I put in a vote for the quillon dagger.

The seax is my favourite as well and, while I agree that they're not strictly medieval, I still voted for "other" for this reason (I guess it depends on which definition of "medieval" one adheres to). quillon dagger would be my second choice.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Aug, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm partial to Holbeins.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Aug, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I found a picture of an historical "Aunlaz" that I thought everyone would enjoy.

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Aug, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

R D Moore wrote:
I found a picture of an historical "Aunlaz" that I thought everyone would enjoy.

Copyright to Logan Thompson

" Daggers and Bayonets A History" by Logan Thompson.


I believe we have a pic of that same dagger in the review:



Arma Bohemia has a picture of the Bayerisches Armeemuseum dagger, too:


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I believe you're right! And much better photography, I believe Eek! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Messer, Hauswehr, Bauernwehr         Reply with quote

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Sean Flynt wrote:
At the moment I'm very interested in utilitarian messers of the hauswehr/bauernwehr type. One rarely sees reproductions but they're all over German artwork of the late 15th and early 16th centuries.


The utilitarian nature of these side arms are what I find the most interesting. It is an every-day tool that peasants seem to carry for mundane tasks and it can be used to fight with in the event one is threatened. It is for this reason, I voted "OTHER." The Hauswehr, Bauernwehr is simply a jack-of-all-trades.

I very much like the handle design of the Baselard, which I thought about voting for, and I like the variety that exists in the Rondel dagger and the protection that the disks provide. The hand protection offered by the Rondel dagger puts it higher on my list than the Baselard. However, both of these lost my vote because of the utilitarian nature of the simple farmer's blade. It was designed for more than just killing.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Sep, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's another historical dagger of this form. It's dated to c. 1400 and is in London's Guildhall museum.


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