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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: The power of impact weapons         Reply with quote

I ran across this photo and thought folks might like to see the devastating power impact weapons can impart. This is a closed burgonet from the Landzeughaus, Graz.

I suppose the holes could be bullet holes, but they're awfully square for a projectile...



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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: The power of impact weapons         Reply with quote

Looks to be of a war hammer or some other blunt weapon.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: The power of impact weapons         Reply with quote

Reece Nelson wrote:
Looks to be of a war hammer or some other blunt weapon.


It could be any type of weapon with a spike (war hammer, halberd, pollaxe, etc.). Judging by the different sizes and shapes of the holes, this poor guy may have gotten it from more than one weapon.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ouch!
Looks like an object with multiple spikes might have done that (a four pointed lucern hammer maybe).
I love the hammer finish on the visor, but I'm glad I wasn't wearing it that day!...
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks to me like it's been used to test weapons. like war hammers or something.
Don't think if it was being worn at the time, that the wearer would have allowed so many hits all in one spot!
(Unless the Big hole was the first wack!........but then, if this was the case, there would be no need for the lighter hits....)
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Aug, 2008 4:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks like a blow from the hammer side of a poleaxe. Some of those look like giant metal meat tenderizers. Ruin your day for sure.
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Aug, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Perhaps somebody practised with crossbow...
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Aug, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: The power of impact weapons         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
I suppose the holes could be bullet holes, but they're awfully square for a projectile...


They could be from bodkin arrows. They make nice square holes like that.

The number of hits in the same area suggests to me that it was a test piece. Either that or someone with a bec de corbin was VERY angry and got a little carried away?
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

To me it appears as if some of the blows penetrated the helmet's skull only shallowly, possibly not enough to kill the guy inside, until the blow that made the big hole struck him...
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have quite a few other pictures from Graz showing impact holes/dents...

I'll post them when I get off work today.
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Sep, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Took a bit, but as requested:




I know I have several more, this is the only one I could find right at the moment.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Dec, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: The power of impact weapons         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
I ran across this photo and thought folks might like to see the devastating power impact weapons can impart. This is a closed burgonet from the Landzeughaus, Graz.

I suppose the holes could be bullet holes, but they're awfully square for a projectile...


More than likely, this weapon or something similar. The dent is from the mace side and the holes from the spear side, that square shape is the same size and shape as the spear point of the poelarm.



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PostPosted: Mon 17 Dec, 2012 11:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I wonder if this is not the result of blows with a long hafted spiked club or possibly a large spiked flail?
Something like the ones seen in this wood cut:



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