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P. Tuch





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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: The Quest for the Right sword...         Reply with quote

Hello Everybody,

...Well, if this was a radio show I'd be saying, "long time listener, first time caller".

Anyway, I've been searching for the right sword for me for several years now, but have not had much luck. Truth be told the only way to get the "perfect" sword would be to make it myself. Which wouldn't be that difficult seeing as I've got a knife shop at my disposal. But...

I feel like being lazy. Plus I don't have a large enough kiln to properly heat treat a sword, at the moment.

So I have resigned myself to buying one, for the time being. And, I've gotta tell you, I need all the help I can get, so any help I can get, so any help would be appreciated.

Sword Preferences:

I- Above all it should be functional

2- it should be on the smaller/lighter side; I not a big guy at 5'7" and 155#

3- Cut and thrust capabilities

4- complex hilt; be it sabre, cutlass, basket, sciavona, etc.

Any ideas would really help me out.
Thanks All
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Take a look at www.armourclass.com
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P. Tuch





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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Roger. Very cool site, haven't seen any of their stuff before.

Unfortunately it seems they only sell blunts. If they sold sharps, I would be really tempted.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

P. Tuch wrote:
Thanks Roger. Very cool site, haven't seen any of their stuff before.

Unfortunately it seems they only sell blunts. If they sold sharps, I would be really tempted.


They sell both. If you look at the blade options you should be able to choose between sharp and blunt blades.

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P. Tuch





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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh, cool.

I guess I a bit absent minded sometimes.

Does anyone have any experience with them? What kind of company are they? How well does their product hold up to use?

They actually seem to have some stuff in my budget range as well (250US 126UK)

God, I hate how low the USdollar is these days.


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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Armour Class.....top notch stuff in my book. It's a shame they don't get alot of recognition over here. Lots of UK re-enactment groups use their wares.
check out the review of my Mortuary hilt from them....located in the review section of this site.

It's the prize of my collection.....(said it many times)...I love seeing the look of everyone's face when they pick it up
for the first time.....and hear "Wow".....

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P. Tuch





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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice. A bit out of my price range though.

Man, that diamond basket hilt is really beautiful. Wish I had an extra grand on hand.

Does anyone know where I can gett a good quality bare blade. I might like to try my hand at handling and making a hilt.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mr. Goodwin - how tight is that AC Mortuary hilt on your hand? I have a Hanwei practical Mortuary, and the hilt opening is so narrow that I can't wield it with a hammer grip, but must hold it like a rapier.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger...don't call me Mr. ...I feel old enough as it is..Happy


For me....it's almost perfect.....I can wear a leather gauntlet with ease, very comfortable & roomy.

I too have a Hanwei mortuary (sharp version)-(yet another review to be found on this site)...it's a wee bit small but not totally hindering.


The basket on my Hanwei Cromwell mortuary is rather roomy too but not hideously large.

I don't have large hands ...just long fingers......


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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A couple of suggestions:

http://www.arms-n-armor.com/sword192.html A & A Town guard sword

http://www.arms-n-armor.com/rapier164.html Cavaliere rapier

Cut and thrust, complex hilt, medium sized.

Since period wasn't mentioned my suggestions are fairly arbitrary being a couple that I like.

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P. Tuch





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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Jean,

Their both beautiful. And the town guard sword would definitely work...If I had 700 bucks.

Unfortunately, as I stated earlier, my budget is only about 250US.

My goal with the complex hilt is hand protection...and maybe an inadvertant pair of knuckle dusters. Razz

IDK. It's hard to be satisfied, when you're a dedicated nit-picker like me.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I love how a schiavona handles. Cut and thrust, good protection, and heavy enough to be used against something other than a guy dancing around with a rapier. Big Grin

Might want to look into them.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Actually, I've always liked sciavonas. My main concern is I've never handled one.

Weight, balance, ect.???
Any insight would be quite appreciated.

Also, I have relatively small, long fingered hands. So I don't know how what sized gaurd would work for me.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

P. Tuch wrote:


Unfortunately, as I stated earlier, my budget is only about 250US.


For that amount of money you can get the sharp Hanwei version of the mortuary sword - http://kultofathena.com/product~item~PC2004.htm - there is another "antiqued" version of the sword at that website for just a few dollars more.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

We have reviews of two Armour Class swords on our Reviews page. There are also three of their swords featured throughout the Collection Galleries on this site. Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The hanwei mortuary sword seems like it might not have enough width, blade-wise, to be an effective cutter. I could be wrong.
IDK
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: The Quest for the Right sword...         Reply with quote

P. Tuch wrote:

Sword Preferences:

I- Above all it should be functional

2- it should be on the smaller/lighter side; I not a big guy at 5'7" and 155#

3- Cut and thrust capabilities

4- complex hilt; be it sabre, cutlass, basket, sciavona, etc.

Any ideas would really help me out.
Thanks All



Hello,

I would also like to mention the sideswords that Albion is now making. You may want to check out the Type XIX's, like the Doge and Condotierre. Soon enough, they will be releasing the hand-and-a-half Type XIX's- the Hauptmann and Markgraf, both of which sport complex hilts and will likely be fairly light. I have handled the Gallowglass, which features that particular blade. It is definitely light and swift.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Apr, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: The Quest for the Right sword...         Reply with quote

Sword Preferences:

I- Above all it should be functional

2- it should be on the smaller/lighter side; I not a big guy at 5'7" and 155#

3- Cut and thrust capabilities

4- complex hilt; be it sabre, cutlass, basket, sciavona, etc.

-----------------------------------------------
I'm a bit of a novice to the complex realm of swords/medievalism, but I'll throw in my 2 cents to try and help out.

One of my personal favorite swords of all time is the Edward III sword. This is usually a pricier sword, (at least for me), but if you do some price shopping, you can find one that is under $250.

One such place is: http://www.kultofathena.com/product~item~PC20...+Sword.htm

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Apr, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: The Quest for the Right sword...         Reply with quote

Nathan Gilleland wrote:
I'm a bit of a novice to the complex realm of swords/medievalism, but I'll throw in my 2 cents to try and help out.

One of my personal favorite swords of all time is the Edward III sword. This is usually a pricier sword, (at least for me), but if you do some price shopping, you can find one that is under $250.

One such place is: http://www.kultofathena.com/product~item~PC20...+Sword.htm


If you like the Hanwei Edward III and can find one, it's worth buying sooner rather than later. Hanwei has discontinued the model and they will only be getting more scarce...

Happy

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2008 12:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You know? I've thought about it, and I've realized that in all of the arts I've practiced, I've never really used an emphasis on thrust. I've alway used slashing techniques, and they haven't let me down. So I've decinded on a saber or cutlass. If anyone knows of one of decent quality, I would appreciate the help. Does anyone have any experience with the cold steel line?

Thanks all.
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