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Mackenzie Cosens




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PostPosted: Fri 11 Apr, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Looking for evidence of Kettle Hats in the Viking Age         Reply with quote

Hi,

Does anyone know where I can find evidence of Kettle Hats being used in North West Europe during Viking Age ( approx 793ce-1066ce )? My Trivia only memory links the terms War Hat and Saga but I would rather have a better evidence then my poor memory.

Thanks in advance.

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Mark Shier
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Apr, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: carolingian helmets         Reply with quote

Like these http://www.geocities.com/egfrothos/Frankhelm.html ?
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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Fri 11 Apr, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

nope. only "viking helm" found is a spagenhelm. Carolianians weren't know as "vikings" per say. their helmets are seen in paintings etc but i don't know of any fragments found. i believe kettlehats start showing up in western europe in the 12th cent if i'm not mistaken.
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Mackenzie Cosens




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PostPosted: Fri 11 Apr, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi
I have done some more research and found the following quote in the Laxdla saga.

The translation seems to describe a kettle hat, although I am left wondering if it is a 13th c injection describing "Modern" 13th c Armour in the much older saga.

source:
http://www.hurstwic.org/library/arms_in_sagas/arms_in_sagas.pdf

Thank you to www.hurstwic.org for posting this document online.
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Quote:

spangabrynja Laxd 1632 a 63 ...og horfi t r hringinum. S var spangabrynju og hafi
stlhfu hfi og var...

Quote:

He wore a plated mail-coat and a steel helmet with a brim as wide as the width of your hand. He
held a gleaming axe over his shoulder, the blade of which was an ell in length. The man was dark,
with black eyes and the appearance of a viking.

(The saga) Laxdla saga
( translation volume ) 5
( translation page ) 98
( translation chapter ) 63
(when the action took place) 900 - 1000 ce
(written in ) mid 13th c
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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Fri 11 Apr, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

ya i think so too. all to often artists and authors put the armour of now in yesterdays context
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