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John Cooksey




Location: NW Ark
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Sep, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Ring pommel question         Reply with quote

Have any of y'all ever seen an image of an Eastern European, Central Asian, or Chinese ring-hilt in which the tang of the blade goes through the ring, in the same fashion as one of the famous Irish ring-hilts?

I have been scouring the internet and a few books for ring-hilt images, and so far my analysis of the "Eastern" and early ring hilts includes these methods of ring attachment:
1. Cast onto the blade
2. set into a a folded/welded loop in the tang
3. integral with the blade (appears to be a late development, with the possible exception)of the "Roman ring swords"

Sometimes it is very difficult to discern the method ring attachment, especially if the grip covering is still extant.

I have a nice, long, hand-forged blank that is going to need a pommel, and the focus of this piece is the 6th through 8th centuries AD.

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Joel Chesser




Location: Oklahoma
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Sep, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This is far from my area of knowledge, but I did look through Swords and Hilt Weapons published by Barnes and Noble, and all the images they showed seemed to be either cast or integral with the tang. I saw and read nothing that would indicate the pommel working like the Irish ring hilt.
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John Cooksey




Location: NW Ark
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Sep, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Joel Chesser wrote:
This is far from my area of knowledge, but I did look through Swords and Hilt Weapons published by Barnes and Noble, and all the images they showed seemed to be either cast or integral with the tang. I saw and read nothing that would indicate the pommel working like the Irish ring hilt.


Thanks---that meshes with what I have seen so far.

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