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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Removing rings from crossguard         Reply with quote

Would I do a wrong thing if I get the rings on the crossguard removed? Also could this sword be specified into oakeshott typology and would I get an sword of earlier period if I get the rings removed?

http://www.museumreplicas.com/webstore/eCat/s...sword.aspx

http://www.museumreplicas.com/webstore/ShowLa..._l_000.jpg
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Rather than cut that one up, try looking at this longsword. I hate buying a piece and hacksawing it and run a risk of messing it up.


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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

But if you feel you need this one, try getting it here.
http://kultofathena.com/product~item~500800.htm

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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I already bought this one and I'm satisfied with it, I bought it becouse I didn't had to order, I bought it at the store in a nearby town and these rings are the only thing i would change on the sword. I think that this sword could be placed in the first half of the 15th century just if it wouldn't have the rings on the guard.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing rings from crossguard         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Would I do a wrong thing if I get the rings on the crossguard removed? Also could this sword be specified into oakeshott typology and would I get an sword of earlier period if I get the rings removed?

http://www.museumreplicas.com/webstore/eCat/s...sword.aspx

http://www.museumreplicas.com/webstore/ShowLa..._l_000.jpg


I would say it might be an Oakeshott Type XXa. I'm not sure removing the rings will make it appear much earlier, as the pommel form and blade aren't necessarily too typical of the early 15th century.

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun, 2007 12:56 am    Post subject: Re: Removing rings from crossguard         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Would I do a wrong thing if I get the rings on the crossguard removed? Also could this sword be specified into oakeshott typology and would I get an sword of earlier period if I get the rings removed?

http://www.museumreplicas.com/webstore/eCat/s...sword.aspx

http://www.museumreplicas.com/webstore/ShowLa..._l_000.jpg


It's your sword . . . it's not an antique . . . if you'd like it better without rings, take them off. If the guard is solid metal, you should be able to hacksaw and file the rings off. You might run into trouble if the guard has been chromed or plated. Then you'll have an ugly scar where you removed the rings.

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David Martin




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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's hard to tell from the MRL photos, but it looks like those rings are in some way integrated with the guard at its center. My concern is that cutting off the rings may result in an unsightly gap.

Perhaps you could shorten the rings to stubs, which you could then shape in some decorative fashion. Another option would be to cut each ring at the center, shorten each end and flatten each tip, then hammer them around a mandrel back into the center of the guard. This would give you a small "m" or heart on each side of the guard, which might look nice, although this would entail a considerable amount of work.

Whatever path you choose, be sure to cover your blade and grip before you start. An errant saw or file mark won't help matters.

Good luck!

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