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Matt Easton




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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jun, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Museum photos         Reply with quote

In my gallery -

Royal Armouries, Leeds, UK:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/main.p...emId=12928

Museum of London, UK:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/main.p...emId=12181

Musee des Beaux-Arts, Dijon, France:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/main.p...emId=11707

Enjoy!

Matt

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jun, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks, Matt! Great stuff there, and I was especially happy to see the French collection.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jun, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Matt, I was just at the Royal Armouries today, brilliant place. Cool Living in Bolton I'm only about an hour or so away (depending on the traffic on the M62 which, by the way, was bad today WTF?! ). Had to persuade myself not to buy the Del Tin 2140 in the gift shop though and continue saving for an Albion Yeoman! Wink. I found the pictures from the London Museum very interesting especially the sword with its scabbard, only ever seen one black and white photo of it. I beleive it was dredged out of the Thames?
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jun, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Excellent photos Matt.

I especially appreciate the details of how the various daggers are hilted. I never seem to be able to get enough good reference images for this.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jun, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Matt-

Thanks you very much for posting! This is great stuff. It's always nice for us in places far away to see photos like these that show objects and give views not in books. I have one real question. Do you have any more information regarding the Viking sword from Leeds that appears to have a single edge? i believe it is photo #78 in the Royal Armouries album. It's very unusual......

-Tim
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jun, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Okay. I'm baffeled. What on earth is this:

http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/main.p...emId=12405

That looks a lot more to be from an alien movie, than to be from the middleages. The handle looks most uncomfortable. No, wait, has there been a wooden handle and only those HUGE tubelike rivets are left of it?

BTW, great pics!
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jun, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ahhhh.... photos of the seaxes from the Museum of London, excellent! I've been wanting to get my hands on some photos of these for a long time. And a very nice langsax in the Royal Armouries to b.t.w.! Thanks! Happy
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Kel Rekuta




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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jun, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Risto Rautiainen wrote:
Okay. I'm baffeled. What on earth is this:

http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/main.p...emId=12405

That looks a lot more to be from an alien movie, than to be from the middleages. The handle looks most uncomfortable. No, wait, has there been a wooden handle and only those HUGE tubelike rivets are left of it?

BTW, great pics!


The Wallace Collection dagger #727 (in good condition) has similar hilt construction details. The tube-like thingies fastened wooden or bone slabs to the grip. The hexagonal "rondels" are brass over steel on the one in the MoL. Quite interesting really. Cool
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Matt Easton




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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jun, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tim Lison wrote:
I have one real question. Do you have any more information regarding the Viking sword from Leeds that appears to have a single edge? i believe it is photo #78 in the Royal Armouries album. It's very unusual......


I'm afraid not. Though I know that a number of single-edged viking swords have been found in graves in Norway.

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Matt Easton




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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jun, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

By the way, I also have shed loads of photos from Vienna and Graz that I will put online at some point.

Matt

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jun, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tim Lison wrote:
Matt-

Thanks you very much for posting! This is great stuff. It's always nice for us in places far away to see photos like these that show objects and give views not in books. I have one real question. Do you have any more information regarding the Viking sword from Leeds that appears to have a single edge? i believe it is photo #78 in the Royal Armouries album. It's very unusual......

-Tim

Are you refering to this one?
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/main.p...emId=13161
That's a typical Frankish langsax (although I've heard this type also occurs in Scandinavia). It's actually pre-Viking, most langsaxes date to the 8th century.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jun, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeroen Zuiderwijk wrote:
Tim Lison wrote:
Matt-

Thanks you very much for posting! This is great stuff. It's always nice for us in places far away to see photos like these that show objects and give views not in books. I have one real question. Do you have any more information regarding the Viking sword from Leeds that appears to have a single edge? i believe it is photo #78 in the Royal Armouries album. It's very unusual......

-Tim

Are you refering to this one?
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/main.p...emId=13161
That's a typical Frankish langsax (although I've heard this type also occurs in Scandinavia). It's actually pre-Viking, most langsaxes date to the 8th century.


Jeroen-

Yes that's the one! I didn't know that langsaxes were usually that big. Thanks for the info. That one sure is cool..... I noticed that it has no pommel or cross. Would something this big have a typical sax grip?
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jun, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tim Lison wrote:
Yes that's the one! I didn't know that langsaxes were usually that big.
Not commonly, most were shorter. The ones from my country generally have blades of around 50cm, or 70cm complete with tang. Otherwise they're identical.

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Thanks for the info. That one sure is cool..... I noticed that it has no pommel or cross. Would something this big have a typical sax grip?
Yeah, which means long wooden grips, in which the tang would have been glued in. The ones I know with hilt remains have hilt lengths of up to 20cm, and they're missing the end. Only the wood attached to the tangs are preserved. So I don't know how long the complete hilt would have been. The interesing part is that a lot of these longsaxes also had patternwelded fullers, and sometimes steel edges welded on using sawtooth welds. So they were visually pretty impressive weapons!
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jun, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Jeroen! I appreciate the info. (again!) I've been considering a custom seax for a while, but may want to get one a little longer now......Thanks again to Matt for these awesome photos.
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jun, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Matt, if you have a chance to hit the British Museum again, could you get a few different angles (particularly a side view of the pommel) of the river Witham sword referenced in this thread: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...tham+sword
I'm considering getting a custom commission of it, but unfortunately my pics I took when I was there didn't turn out,
thanks so much if you get a chance,
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Many thanks for the photos, Matt. The shots of the interiors of the helms shown on the effigies at Dijon were fabulous. Hopefully you'll post your Vienna pictures soon; it's not possible to see too many photos from the Waffensammlung!
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