Cinquedea reproduction -- myArmoury.com

Martin Moser · Posted: Sun 24 Apr, 2016 11:05 am Post subject: Cinquedea reproduction

Hello all,

a bit of a progress report on a Cinquedea I'm working on for my early 16th century Landsknecht thingy. I got a blade made after an orignal sold in an auction and am now in the progress of making the elements that decorate the hilt after doing the crossguard.
I'm shaping the hilt after an original in the Met: http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/searc...nformation

Cheers,
Martin

M. Adair Orr · Posted: Mon 25 Apr, 2016 10:34 am Post subject:

Great work so far. I love the brass inserts.

-A.

Juan Federico Gonzalez · Posted: Wed 27 Apr, 2016 12:52 pm Post subject: Nice!

That's looking really good.

Martin Moser · Posted: Sun 01 May, 2016 11:59 am Post subject:

Most of the pieces that make up the hilt are done and ready for assembly:

Julien M · Posted: Tue 03 May, 2016 6:22 am Post subject:

Not a single comment?
This is great work, especially for an amateur (I remember your previous projects well). Keep it up, and keep documenting this!
Cheers,
J

M. Adair Orr · Posted: Tue 03 May, 2016 7:39 am Post subject:

Again, excellent work.

I'm curious about a couple details. You've cut out the profile of the grip in wood, but the image shows a faily large pommel. Is that pommel solid or a cap? Similar question about the brass bands that you have prepped for inlay into the wood grip; on the original are they set into the flat of the grip only, or do they collar the entire perimeter?

I can't wait to see this grip in someones hand. The design looks like such an ungainly thing to hold, but I know there is good logic to it. Hopefully you can provide a photo when you are done.

-Adair

Martin Moser · Posted: Tue 03 May, 2016 12:48 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the comments :-)

Gregg Sobocinski · Posted: Wed 04 May, 2016 7:16 pm Post subject:

I'm waiting for the completion of this project. The simple blade attracts me more than the more common, multi-fullered blades. Could end up being a new favorite look for the type!

Martin Moser · Posted: Thu 05 May, 2016 11:44 am Post subject:

Some progress, I'm hoping to get the Cinquedea completed (without scabbard) this weekend. The side view shots give a view of the hilt construction, which is interesting IMHO in that it is kind of only semi-filled between the hilt plates.

Martin Moser · Posted: Sat 07 May, 2016 12:41 pm Post subject:

Hours of filing, sanding, cursing and sweating later ... almost ready except for the engraving of the pommel. I'm very much in love with the shape and proportions of this weapon. And, like the originals it is modelled after, those little asymmetries and imperfections make it very lively - plus it puts it into my skill range ;-)

(why is it that some pics show up, while others only appear as a downloadable attachment?)

Jeffrey Hildebrandt · Industry Professional

Very nice so far, Martin!

Juan Federico Gonzalez · Posted: Sun 08 May, 2016 8:34 pm Post subject:

That is looking really really nice

Julien M · Posted: Mon 09 May, 2016 3:21 am Post subject:

Very very impressed by your work on this piece - you made the all process look as easy as a walk in the park.
What kind of équipement do you have to silver solder? Looking Forward to see the scabbard too (most cinquedea scabbards I've seen in museum had exquisite leather carved renaissance motives - daunting!)
Thx,
Julien

Martin Moser · Posted: Mon 09 May, 2016 10:41 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the encouraging comments all :-)

Leo Todeschini · Industry Professional

That is a fantastic piece of work Martin, as Julien says "all the more impressive for a non-professional"

Really really stunning piece and as a shoe maker I have a fell that the scabbard will be a thing to see as well.

Really well done.

Tod

Nathan Robinson · myArmoury Admin

Martin Moser · Posted: Tue 10 May, 2016 6:11 am Post subject:

Thanks for the kind words, Tod, all the more as they come from such an expert maker! :-)

Nathan - thanks for the pointer, that's the info I was looing for but was somehow too blind to find :-P 800x800 max, got it now!

Gregg Sobocinski · Posted: Tue 17 May, 2016 7:09 pm Post subject:

I really like this sword! Nicely done! There is something about the adornments on the handle, paired with the simpler, single-rib blade that really works!

Martin Moser · Posted: Wed 29 Jun, 2016 1:18 pm Post subject:

Picking it up again, I have decided on what type of scabbard to make for this cinquedea - I'm going to go with a scabbard from Armi Bianchi Italiane that has 2 by-knives, see below at bottom. The scabbard will not have the metal band at the top, which apparently is a modern addition.

I have prepared the inner layer of the scabbard and am now working on the by-knives. The pick is done, started cutting and grinding the shape of the knife . For these I'm repurposing one of a few sets of cheap and very large knife and pick I bought years ago, see the before-after pics and how they are going to be placed on the scabbard.

Martin Moser · Posted: Mon 04 Jul, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject:

And another step ahead on the weekend - completed the sheath. 2 layer construction with stamping after a surviving original only slightly larger than mine. Next is the chape and then, finally engraving the pommel to finish the whole project off eventually.