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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Holy Cow Gordon! With a month left there are 95 people on the books! We're going to have a damn nice size pike square!
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sounds like some good pics ahead to look forward to. Wink Laughing Out Loud

That is going to be quite a mob to feed ! Maybe a little pillaging of the surrounding farms will be needed for supplies and to give the event that little extra something of period authenticity. Razz Laughing Out Loud ( Yes, I'm evil Evil )

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Daniel Staberg wrote:
The extant Swedish 17th Century pikes I've studied were all tapered at both ends, the thickest part was around 3.5-3.6 centimeters in diameter. I sure wouldn't call the shafts dainty ;-) even with the taper. The fact that the top 10-20% of the shaft is reinforced with iron strips would IMHO compensate for most if not all of the weakness created by the taper.
But more research is clearly need on the subject, a problem is that so many of the extant pikes have been shortened to make them easier to store. Still there are complete pikes in Sweden, Switzerland and Austria to name the places i know of and I would be surprised if the Royal Armouries didn't have some in their vast collection.

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Do you have any facts, figures and measurements and pictures of said Swedish Pike..?
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar, 2007 6:17 am    Post subject: Sources         Reply with quote

Gordon,

Do you have a suitable source I can read for Walhaussen and Van Nassau....?

And I have a copy of the Navy Society's book on Norris/Drake's trip to Cadiz in the late 1580's with some facts and figures on costs... Interested..?

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chris;

Ain't it great? Looks as though just through pre-registration, and only counting the people who are definitely attending as pikemen (there are a number of "undecideds" who may be either Pike or Shotte) we have 21 Pikes & 14 Shotte. I suspect we'll be well over 30 Pikes and 20 Shotte by the time we're actually forming up on the parade. I won't be fielding as many Horse this year as last, but the quality ought to be higher this time (meaning mostly well experienced horsemen: I had a few newbies last year which slowed us down considerably). We ought to give you fellows on the ground something to ponder, and I'm sure you'll return the complement, too! Big Grin

Jean;

Somehow I expect that the local gendarmerie (modern definition) might have words with my own gendarmerie (old definition) if we sacked and pillaged many farms in the neighborhood. At least the Shire-reeve and his men would. Sadly, they have somewhat greater firepower than we can muster, too. Eek! Maybe we'll just pillage the local Safeway or whatever.. Cool

David;

You bet! I'm game for that. We'll PM to work out details of a "Swappo Guerrilla" action... Big Grin

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What a fantastic event! Many thanks to Gordon, Patrick Gaul, Kevin Bohl, David Luckhardt and Barry Siler for all their help and hospitality!

We had a blast and were already talking about getting an even bigger group to go next year! Pictures will be forthcoming!

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chris;

Thank you. I'm VERY glad that you found it all worthwhile. Me, I had a blast too, even though I only just got home tonight (after a two-day drive home with the horses...) I think the high-point for me was pushing the horses through the pike-square with the pikemen and musketeers feeding them carrots. I've decided to call this the "Carrot and Stick" drill. Cool

More forthcoming, no doubt, after I recover a bit. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

First of my lads's pictures are up:

http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/kurakazi/SRS_2007/

Thanks to Mike Hesek for the great photos. They go in reverse order from Sunday to Friday because of how they uploaded.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Damn this looks like fun! Gordon, the fella from the Polish artillery regiment I did the cicak for was asking about this event last week. Might be worth getting in touch with them for next year so'as you can add a little artillery into the mix.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chris;

Thanks! I'll post more photo's here as they come in, I think yours are the first though. But for some reason almost all of your photo's are of the Foote, not the Horse! Must be some sort of technical glitch I suppose... Big Grin

The event was pretty darned fabulous I think, and it was darned impressive seeing something that could actually be construed as a "Forest of Pikes" marching in column, surrounded by Shotte, coming over to the Cavalry Drill field to play with us! I guess you fellows must have had at least 36 Pikes in that square. Whatever it was, it was pretty impressive! More next year... Cool

Allan;

Thanks for the plug! I've talked a bit with one of the fellows in the Polish Light Artillery, so hopefully we'll get some participation from them next year. We HAVE a Lowland Scottish Artillery unit that is local, but they fell in as Shotte for this event, which is just as well. Gotta see just how well the horses do with artillery fire... they did GREAT with musketry though!

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gordon Frye wrote:
Chris;

Thanks! I'll post more photo's here as they come in, I think yours are the first though. But for some reason almost all of your photo's are of the Foote, not the Horse! Must be some sort of technical glitch I suppose... Big Grin

The event was pretty darned fabulous I think, and it was darned impressive seeing something that could actually be construed as a "Forest of Pikes" marching in column, surrounded by Shotte, coming over to the Cavalry Drill field to play with us! I guess you fellows must have had at least 36 Pikes in that square. Whatever it was, it was pretty impressive! More next year... Cool



Must have been the lens on the Camera. It must have had issues with the height of the horses. Happy The only things I'm dissapointed in are the unstable footing for the horse late in the day Saturday and Sunday that limited more combined actions, and the fact that I completely missed Dale Shinn. I've admired his work for a long time and would have loved to meet him in person.


Allan,

See what you really need to do is either come out and play next year. If it takes both of us heading out to California to finally meet and share some hard tack over a fire then I say lets do it!

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chris Last wrote:

Must have been the lens on the Camera. It must have had issues with the height of the horses. Happy The only things I'm dissapointed in are the unstable footing for the horse late in the day Saturday and Sunday that limited more combined actions, and the fact that I completely missed Dale Shinn. I've admired his work for a long time and would have loved to meet him in person.


Well, you were standing about 10 feet from Mr. Shinn in the pike square, I'm sorry that I wasn't able to introduce you. Durn. He was one of Montrose's men in light grey with blue bonnets and muskets, the gentleman with white goatee and long moustachios. Oh well, next time! Big Grin

And yes, your camera must have had some weird issues viz the horse photo's that should have been there. Please have it corrected by next year, okay? Cool

At any rate, the wet conditions did make it rather awkward for us to do much at speed with the horses, we had one go almost down when we were wheelling just prior to our "charge", and another slipped and went down just WALKING from the Infantry field after the shooting exercises. Eek! I'll have to remind the muster master to ensure better weather next time. So far we're three for three (though the first year it only started to rain AFTER we were all packed up... Happy )

And Allan, you know that you're always welcome to join us, we'll even feed you something other than the mouldy hard-tack that we issued out the Wisconsin boys. We thought it was cheese, honest! Laughing Out Loud

Cheers!

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's some more photos!

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u300/Ironlungfish/SRS/

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