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Manouchehr M.
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More pictures of the pieces shown above.
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Gordon Frye
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Manouchehr:
Thanks for posting all of these pictures! BTW, was that combination pistol/sword attributed to being owned by Henri IV? That would be VERY interesting if it were, as it's a rather interesting variation of the flintlock, that wasn't supposed to exist yet... 
Thanks for any info you might remember.
Cheers!
Gordon
"After God, we owe our victory to our Horses"
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Manouchehr M.
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| Gordon Frye wrote: | Manouchehr:
Thanks for posting all of these pictures! BTW, was that combination pistol/sword attributed to being owned by Henri IV? That would be VERY interesting if it were, as it's a rather interesting variation of the flintlock, that wasn't supposed to exist yet...
Thanks for any info you might remember.
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Gordon
You are very welcome. I do not think that it was attributed to him. Otherwise I would have surely taken a picture of the text.
Kind regards
Manouchehr
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Randall Moffett
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Gordon,
I thought the flintlock was invented sometime around 1600 but took time to replace the existing firing methods.
Manouchehr,
Thanks for the pictures the gothic suit is nice, It is so neat to see the many suits of this style how they are alike and different. Great pictures!
RPM
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Manouchehr M.
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| Randall Moffett wrote: | Gordon,
I thought the flintlock was invented sometime around 1600 but took time to replace the existing firing methods.
Manouchehr,
Thanks for the pictures the gothic suit is nice, It is so neat to see the many suits of this style how they are alike and different. Great pictures!
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Randall,
You are very welcome. I will check on that next time when I am in Paris.
Kind regards
Manouchehr
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Manouchehr M.
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| Gordon Frye wrote: | Manouchehr:
Thanks for posting all of these pictures! BTW, was that combination pistol/sword attributed to being owned by Henri IV? That would be VERY interesting if it were, as it's a rather interesting variation of the flintlock, that wasn't supposed to exist yet...
Thanks for any info you might remember.
Cheers!
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Gordon
Could you please explain the Gothic style of armor and its origins? Thanks a lot.
KInd regards
Manouchehr
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Manouchehr M.
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Armor related to infant Louis VIII
Dutch work around 1610.
THis is a marvellous suit of armor really.
KInd regards
Manouchehr
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Pieces of armor of the Dauphin of France.
French work 1603.
There is some magic to European armor. They are really marvellous pieces of art.
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| Quote: | | You are welcome. That bronze sword is truly amazing. Have you seen similar examples of it? |
Pehaps I can answer that one. The blade on this sword is a typical for LBA carp's tongue sword. The hilt and scabbard are unique however. It's possible that other organic hilted swords of this type had similar shaped hilts, but I've never seen preserved examples. So far I've only known this sword from a small line drawing, so it's great to finally have a photo of the real thing. Thanks! 
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Russ Ellis
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| Jeroen Zuiderwijk wrote: | | Quote: | | You are welcome. That bronze sword is truly amazing. Have you seen similar examples of it? |
Pehaps I can answer that one. The blade on this sword is a typical for LBA carp's tongue sword. The hilt and scabbard are unique however. It's possible that other organic hilted swords of this type had similar shaped hilts, but I've never seen preserved examples. So far I've only known this sword from a small line drawing, so it's great to finally have a photo of the real thing. Thanks! |
So far as you know that scabbard is original? How in the world was it preserved if you know? Thanks!
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| Randall Moffett wrote: | Gordon,
I thought the flintlock was invented sometime around 1600 but took time to replace the existing firing methods.
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Randall;
There's a lot of question there as to the date of the "true" (internal vertical sear) flintlock's development/invention. The armourer's mark on a specific flintlock arquebuse atributed to one of the le Bourgeois brothers has been questioned as to it's date recently. In an earlier interperetation, the mark would suggest strongly a date of about 1607-1610. However, it may well be closer to the 1620 date that even earlier scholarship had generally given for the invention of the "true" flintlock. Since Henri IV was assassinated in 1610, it interested me as to whether or not the sword-pistol combination was attributed to his ownership. If proven to be so, it would definitely change things!
BTW, you are absolutely correct on it taking a while for the "true" flintlock to replace existing firing mechanisms. Neigh on to 80 years, in fact! Assuming it was invented around 1620, not 1610, that is... 
Cheers!
Gordon
"After God, we owe our victory to our Horses"
Gonsalo Jimenez de Quesada
http://www.renaissancesoldier.com/
http://historypundit.blogspot.com/
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Gordon
Could you please explain the Gothic style of armor and its origins? Thanks a lot.
Kind regards
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Manouchehr;
I couldn't even BEGIN to do that, I'm afraid!  Way to complex a study for me. I'm sure that we have students of that subject here who are far more competent at answering that question than I am. Hopefully they can speak up about it for you! Probably best on another thread, too...
Cheers!
Gordon
"After God, we owe our victory to our Horses"
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| Jeroen Zuiderwijk wrote: | | Quote: | | You are welcome. That bronze sword is truly amazing. Have you seen similar examples of it? |
Pehaps I can answer that one. The blade on this sword is a typical for LBA carp's tongue sword. The hilt and scabbard are unique however. It's possible that other organic hilted swords of this type had similar shaped hilts, but I've never seen preserved examples. So far I've only known this sword from a small line drawing, so it's great to finally have a photo of the real thing. Thanks! |
You are welcome Jeoren,
Thank you very much for the explanation, I really appreciate it.
KInd regards
Manouchehr
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| Russ Ellis wrote: | | Jeroen Zuiderwijk wrote: | | Quote: | | You are welcome. That bronze sword is truly amazing. Have you seen similar examples of it? |
Pehaps I can answer that one. The blade on this sword is a typical for LBA carp's tongue sword. The hilt and scabbard are unique however. It's possible that other organic hilted swords of this type had similar shaped hilts, but I've never seen preserved examples. So far I've only known this sword from a small line drawing, so it's great to finally have a photo of the real thing. Thanks! |
So far as you know that scabbard is original? How in the world was it preserved if you know? Thanks! |
HI Russ
I have seen a number of bronze scabbards of Luristan dirks that are preserved. Of course only the bronze sheet. Parts of fossilized wood remains as well.
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Manouchehr
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| Gordon Frye wrote: | | Manouchehr M. wrote: |
Gordon
Could you please explain the Gothic style of armor and its origins? Thanks a lot.
Kind regards
Manouchehr |
Manouchehr;
I couldn't even BEGIN to do that, I'm afraid! Way to complex a study for me. I'm sure that we have students of that subject here who are far more competent at answering that question than I am. Hopefully they can speak up about it for you! Probably best on another thread, too...
Cheers!
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Thank you GOrdon for your input. I understand. I am getting more and more interested in the study of European armor. There are a number of excellent books on the topic. I need to buy them. I also apprecaite another thread on Gothic style armor. Thanks.
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Manouchehr
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Gentlemen,
Thanks for your interest. For these pictures I spent the whole day in the museum. That was really hard . I am really happy to share the pictures with you. Please make yourinput. I can learn a lot. THanks.
Kind regards
Manouchehr
Half armour of a child from a French court
Frenc work 1610-1620
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