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Posts: 347 Location: Argentina

Tue 19 Dec, 2006 3:24 pm

Type XX swords fuller

Hello Gentlemen.
I was looking at Oakeshott´s typology about Chivalric era swords, and a special kind of longsword caught my attention. it was the Oakeshott type XX and XXa longswords. I saw a beautiful example in this site with its beautiful blade and long grip, i don´t have many knowledge about fullers utility, and maybe this is a silly question, but i was wandering if this kind of swords have any strenght advantage using 2 or 3 fullers. Thank you very much.

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Chad Arnow

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Posts: 9,545 Location: Dayton, OH

Tue 19 Dec, 2006 3:48 pm

Rodolfo,
Have you checked out our article on Type XX swords?

http://www.myArmoury.com/feature_spotxx.html

Also, fullers lighten the blade without compromising strength.

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Rodolfo Martínez

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Posts: 347 Location: Argentina

Wed 20 Dec, 2006 7:47 am

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Also, fullers lighten the blade without compromising strength.

Yes, i have read the article, i wasn´t sure about fuller true utility, Thanks for the light Chad.
I heard that hand and a half swords have two handed grips, like 20 cm long, Do you know if when Mr. Oakeshott talks about for example 10 inches grip he includes the pommel or not? And when he talks about a 50 inches blade, he refers to the entire sword, or only the blade?(There are some people who calls ¨blade¨ to the sword, that´s why the silly questions)
Thanks.

P.D.
http://www.myArmoury.com/feature_spotxx.html
Where the XX.1 From the Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna (A.89.W) and the XX.3 From a Private Collection funcional swords for battle, or this huge examples were for ceremonial purpouses only.

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Chad Arnow

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Posts: 9,545 Location: Dayton, OH

Wed 20 Dec, 2006 8:06 am

Rodolfo Martínez wrote:

Yes, i have read the article, i wasn´t sure about fuller true utility, Thanks for the light Chad.
I heard that hand and a half swords have two handed grips, like 20 cm long, Do you know if when Mr. Oakeshott talks about for example 10 inches grip he includes the pommel or not? And when he talks about a 50 inches blade, he refers to the entire sword, or only the blade?(There are some people who calls ¨blade¨ to the sword, that´s why the silly questions)
Thanks.

P.D.
http://www.myArmoury.com/feature_spotxx.html
Where the XX.1 From the Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna (A.89.W) and the XX.3 From a Private Collection funcional swords for battle, or this huge examples were for ceremonial purpouses only.

Usually, when he speaks about the length of the grip, he's referring to the length of the grip only, not including the pommel. I believe when he talks about blade lengths, he's referring just to the blade, not the whole sword.

I would guess XX.1 could have been a functional war sword. XX.3 is still of usable size, though it could possibly be a bearing sword (that's a guess, though).

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