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Jean Thibodeau
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| Jean-Carle Hudon wrote: | M. Trim,
the time frame you have chosen is rich in names which resonate through medieval history, though the more obvious such as Richard Coeur de Lion, and his brother John Lackland are over used, I would look more to the colourful and violent lords such as Simon de Montfort, who crushed the Cathares in the south of what is now France (1210 to 1218), elder relation of the Simon de Montfort who was instrumental in the baron's rebellion in England from 1258 to 1265. In the great battles, I can think of Bouvines,, Courtrai, Bannockburn,
Also in that time frame is the signing of Magna Carta, so the list of Norman-English lords who imposed the beginnings of democracy on the english crown could provide you with a long list to choose from (earls of Clare, Gloucester, Winchester, Norfolk, Oxford, the Constable of Chester, Mareschal the Younger etc...)
I think the trick is to match the blade to the georaphy and time frame , and then choose the name to honour one of those who would have used the same type of weapon, or commanded troops who would have . Good luck in your research.
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Very good suggestions for individual models but I think Guss was thinking about what to call this new line of swords. 
Although there was a mention also about using names instead of model numbers in an earlier post so I guess that's another thing Guss has to figure out.  ( So maybe I jumped to conclusions about what you were responding to. )
Ah, found it:
| Quote: | | Angus Trim: And, these won't have any serial numbers, just names, sorry...... |
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Jeremiah Swanger
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| Jean Thibodeau wrote: |
Very good suggestions for individual models but I think Guss was thinking about what to call this new line of swords.
Although there was a mention also about using names instead of model numbers in an earlier post so I guess that's another thing Gus has to figure out. ( So maybe I jumped to conclusions about what you were responding to. )
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I think something like "Battlefield Reissue", or "Historic Reissue", since Albion already has "Historic Recreation"...
"Reissue" resonates pretty well, IMHO, since Gus is using stronger, "battle-ready" (in the truest sense of the phrase) edges. It would work especially-well if the swords shied away from an overly-shiny polish and stuck with an elegantly-simple satin finish.
"Rhaegar fought nobly.
Rhaegar fought valiantly.
Rhaegar fought honorably.
And Rhaegar died."
- G.R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire
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Hugo Voisine
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Maybe the "Men-at-arms Line" or the "AT Tools of Trade Line" (ATTT).
It would be nice if some of the swords in this new line bore the name of French and Spanish leaders for a change. 
Edit : "Battlefield Reissue" sounds good indeed. 
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M. Eversberg II
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I like the Men at Arms idea, But I still like ATrim's Historics.
M.
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Nathan Robinson
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David Martin
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| Nathan Robinson wrote: | Trim-ply the Best
Nah. Just kiddin'. |
Maybe "Fighting Trim"
"When war-gods meet to match their might,
who can tell the bravest born?
Many a hero never made a hole
in another man's breast."
- Sigurd, The Lay of Fafnir
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Tim Lison
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Any news on when we'll see some of these swords?
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Joel Whitmore
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| Posted: Tue 09 Jan, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: Names My Precious! |
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Hey Gus how about the Angus Trim PPL ( Peaned Pommel LIne). Kinda catchy huh
Joel
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Angus Trim
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| Tim Lison wrote: | | Any news on when we'll see some of these swords? |
The first one in about three weeks. The blade is in the scabbard, hilt pieces roughed out. I need to get some of the backlog out, then I can get this finished.....
There's another one in heat treat......
swords are fun
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Tim Lison
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Sorry to dig up this old thread, but I have been watching Gus's sites and haven't seen any of these swords. Am I missing something?
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Angus Trim
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| Tim Lison wrote: | | Sorry to dig up this old thread, but I have been watching Gus's sites and haven't seen any of these swords. Am I missing something? |
No Tim, you haven't missed anything. Disaster's dogged me for the last three months, and this project has been shelved so that I could deal with more immediate things. If Murphy has moved on, I'll get here, but I still have some immediate things to take care of......
swords are fun
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Tim Lison
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Thanks Gus! Just keep us posted, I'm really interested in seeing what you turn out when it happens!
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David Martin
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Ditto. I'm sorry to hear that you're having a run of bad luck, Gus. I hope things turn around for you soon.
"When war-gods meet to match their might,
who can tell the bravest born?
Many a hero never made a hole
in another man's breast."
- Sigurd, The Lay of Fafnir
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Angus Trim
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I had two of these initally, a XII, based on the "London Guard" AT1312 that Josh Hemingway stocked, and one based on the AT1421.
Blades of both were semi-finished back in January, and both had a scabbard. About three weeks ago, the 1312 based sword was bought sight unseen as a 1312, still needing to be finished. Blades of both were roughed out, with the edges rough ground with convex edge bevels, fullers roughed, but even rough to a higher finish than most current AT's.
Yesterday I refinished the 1312 so it could be shipped today or Monday to its owner in Texas {along with some other finishing}. I may catch some static for this, but the 1421 was taken to the same degree of finish as the 1312, except the tang is not finished. At this point, it can still become an AT1421 {standard tang configuration}, or become the first of the permanent assembled AT's.......
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Angus Trim
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My photo quality needs work, but the only way I'm going to get better is taking photos, and learning there from. The previous pictures, for instance, show the lint sticking to the oil applied right after grinding quite clearly, but does not do the fullers justice.......
The next two photos are of the "1421", handle and blade to attempt to show the definition of the cord underneath the leather, and the convexity of the edges.......The 1421 was chosen for its handling, and for its performance. It was a 1421 that was tested this last summer on pork shoulders, and that did real well. The edges of this particular sword are a bit more robust than the test sword, and convex instead of flat.........
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M. Eversberg II
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 Those look quite amazing! How many more of those are you going to make?
M.
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David Martin
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I'm still keenly interested in a modified 1421 with a longer handle - the Claymore we spoke about a while back. No pressure, and I can be as patient as necessary. Your swords are definitely worth the wait.
"When war-gods meet to match their might,
who can tell the bravest born?
Many a hero never made a hole
in another man's breast."
- Sigurd, The Lay of Fafnir
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Angus Trim
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| M. Eversberg II wrote: | Those look quite amazing! How many more of those are you going to make?
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Hi M.
I guess how many depends on the market...... Its my goal to stock a few of these at all times, and if the stock sells, then I guess I'll be making more.......
The 1312 sold sight unseen...... as a contemporary 1312.........
I need to find a name for the 1421, but that one should be finished in a few days, and then "in stock". It'll be finished, and ready to ship before its listed as "in stock"........
I have six more blades of different types thru heat treat, ready to grind for this line too. We'll see how time breaks........
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M. Eversberg II
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Well, they are most defiantly looking good; Both have the peened pommels, right?
And did you ever decide on a name for that line?
As for naming the AT1421 remake... I'm guessing it's a 15th century pattern sword, so how about the Grunwald after the battle of Grunwald in 1410? Or The Agincourt after that battle? (Both events predate 1421) Or how about "The Sword of the Arc" in honour of Joan of Arc (1429)?
M.
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