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W. Schütz
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jul, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: Antiquing of a Paul Binn Long Seax - report and photos.         Reply with quote

I got inspired by the brilliant article by Sean Flynt on "The Instant Antique" and i think i had the perfect object to start with; a rough seax from Paul Binn made for sparring and abuse. Tho it still had that finish and gloss from the (almost unbreakable) steel used. I wanted to give it more of a primordial look..
I used the guidelines in the article but went for a more aggressive approach, more salt and less vinigar. Almost used 1/10 salt and some really nasty cheap vinigar. The resault was a mean acidy substance. I made two runs, to get an even cover, approx 10 hours each. Im really happy with the resault, and looking forward to trying this out more in the future.

Uploading some of the pics i took, and linking the rest.

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Geoff Wood




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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jul, 2006 8:36 am    Post subject: Paul Binns stuff         Reply with quote

Hi Mr Stilleborn
Looks good, in that it doesn't look instant. He does use tough steel for his stuff. Took me an age to sharpen up one of his spear heads. I let it rust naturally (genuine abuse) and then cleaned that off and heat blued it over a gas cooker ring. No pictures (i don't have your skill, or camera), but it was a good piece to experiment with as it already had a 'rough hewn' look to it when I got it.
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jul, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The results of your antiquing look great! Do you have any pictures of the entire seax that you can share?
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jul, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Paul Binns stuff         Reply with quote

Geoff Wood wrote:
Hi Mr Stilleborn
Looks good, in that it doesn't look instant. He does use tough steel for his stuff. Took me an age to sharpen up one of his spear heads. I let it rust naturally (genuine abuse) and then cleaned that off and heat blued it over a gas cooker ring. No pictures (i don't have your skill, or camera), but it was a good piece to experiment with as it already had a 'rough hewn' look to it when I got it.
Regards
Geoff


It may not answer your request but it is this langseax
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=6022

Nice Will! jävligt snygg illusion av tidens tand! (just some praise in swedish)

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jul, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: Paul Binns stuff         Reply with quote

Martin Wallgren wrote:
...It may not answer your request but it is this langseax
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=6022....
That's a nice looking piece.
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W. Schütz
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jul, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Martin - for the praise AND the actual seax ehy..;/

As close to a photo of the seax in whole as ive got;



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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jul, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nice job there: Looks like a Viking getting sea water or blodd on his seax and not having the opportunity to clean his seax until the next day a few times.

Actually, I wonder how they kept any of there arms and armour from rusting away when in those open to all weather ships ?
( Might be worth it starting a topic on that to see if anybody knows ? )

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jul, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very cool! That's great work! Now, don't you want to antique that brass (bronze?) ferrule as well? Big Grin
It'd look spiffy with a dark patina.

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jul, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Thibodeau wrote:
Nice job there: Looks like a Viking getting sea water or blodd on his seax and not having the opportunity to clean his seax until the next day a few times.

Actually, I wonder how they kept any of there arms and armour from rusting away when in those open to all weather ships ?
( Might be worth it starting a topic on that to see if anybody knows ? )


I'd guess they used a lot of fish oil or some other agent and store them below when not in use.
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W. Schütz
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jul, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean Flynt wrote:
Very cool! That's great work! Now, don't you want to antique that brass (bronze?) ferrule as well? :D
It'd look spiffy with a dark patina.


I put the brass though the same treatment as the steel, but as you can see, not much effect. Odd.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jul, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

W. Stilleborn wrote:


I put the brass though the same treatment as the steel, but as you can see, not much effect. Odd.


Use the ammonia fuming method described in the article. It'll give you a rich, dark patina (if that's what you want) but won't affect the steel or bone.

-Sean

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https://www.amazon.com/Little-Hammer-Sean-Flynt/dp/B08XN7HZ82/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=little+hammer+book&qid=1627482034&sr=8-1
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jul, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Aha..i totally missed the "brass-part" of the article.. Have to look into that.
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