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Sean Flynt
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Shawn Shaw
Location: Boston, MA USA Joined: 07 Jan 2006
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The tang on the renaissance short sword must be pretty thin compared to the blade....just from the picture...it looks weak to me.
I like the other stuff, though.
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Sean Flynt
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Derek St.
Location: Newtown Sq. PA Joined: 12 Sep 2005
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Jonathan Hopkins
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| G. Scott H. wrote: | | J.G. Hopkins wrote: | I have not personally seen any examples of a blackened sword (or at least, not that I remember), but there is an illumination from the St. Albans Chronicle (c.1450) that depicts the Battle of Agincourt. The two horsemen appear to be fighting with blackened swords.
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I've noticed similar depictions in other old artwork, but I wouldn't necessarily trust those old paintings, as many of them also show the armour as appearing black, which I think was more an artistic style at the time than an accurate interpretation of the color of the armour.   |
I still have not been able to find a blackened sword, but I did find blackened armor. On p.100 of An Historical Guide to Arms and Armour by Stephen Bull, there is a picture of North-west European cuirassier armour c.1600 that has been blackened as a defence against rust. The author states that blackening was often done through "chemical russeting, blueing or black paint was applied...." Perhaps the same was done with some swords?
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Edward Hitchens
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Nathan,
Yes, that's the one! It must have been a very popular one -- I know a vendor at the OH Ren festival who sells Windlass swords and gets most of his pieces from MRL. I tried to get him to track that sword down for me but to no avail. I hope it's still around. So far, I've been rather impressed with MRL's new items, but I get bummed out when a really nice piece gets discontinued (like the Ravenna sword).
"The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest." Thomas Jefferson
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George Doby
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anybody besides me bought the zweihander or katzberger?
don't sweat the petty things, just pet the sweaty things
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Alexander Ren
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I like it. Zombies beware, noisy neighbors too! Not so sure about the langettes being so short, I think I would prefer longer. I think I will still go for the A&A pole axe but it's nice to see other polearms out there.
That's a nasty little thing. I think I'll pass on the sheath but the knife itself looks pretty good.
Alex
"The more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in battle."
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Steve Grisetti
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| Greyson Brown wrote: | | I really like the handle treatment on the Renaissance Short Sword and the Doge-like one (I can't find that on their website, what is it called?).... |
MRL calls the "Doge-like one" The Sword of Oran. I like the handle treatment, also.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Steve Grisetti
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| Nathan Robinson wrote: | | MRL uses steel and occasionally brass for their hilt fittings. There was a time that they nickel plated brass on some models, but that seems to be something not done now days. I've never heard of zinc/magnesium or any other "pot-metal" materials used parts on their European items. |
They are still using nickel plate on this new cup hilt rapier, though they don't identify the base material.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Brad Harada
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| G. Scott H. wrote: | | J.G. Hopkins wrote: | I have not personally seen any examples of a blackened sword (or at least, not that I remember), but there is an illumination from the St. Albans Chronicle (c.1450) that depicts the Battle of Agincourt. The two horsemen appear to be fighting with blackened swords.
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I've noticed similar depictions in other old artwork, but I wouldn't necessarily trust those old paintings, as many of them also show the armour as appearing black, which I think was more an artistic style at the time than an accurate interpretation of the color of the armour. |
I can't remember the specific reference, but I recall reading that in certain depictions of armoured combat found in psalters, books of hours, etc., a technique of gilding with silver leaf was sometimes employed. When fresh, this would give the impression of arms blanc. As the leaf oxidized, it would naturally turn black, hence the blackened appearance of the armour and swords/arms.
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Carl Goff
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Oooh. *drools*
1 year till an off-campus apartment and my owning that beauty...
Oh, East of sands and sunlit gulf, your blood is thin, your gods are few;
You could not break the Northern wolf and now the wolf has turned on you.
The fires that light the coasts of Spain fling shadows on the Eastern strand.
Master, your slave has come again with torch and axe in his right hand!
-Robert E. Howard
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Edward Hitchens
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| George Doby wrote: | | anybody besides me bought the zweihander or katzberger? |
I own one of their 2-handed flamberge swords. I don't remember what they labeled it as; I've had it for about four or five years now. She's overall 66" which makes her quite a brute, even for a Renaissance two-hander. The handle alone is longer than most main gauches!
"The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest." Thomas Jefferson
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George Doby
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saw the flamberge but the blade never really tripped my trigger, what does it weigh and is the blade stiff or flexible?
don't sweat the petty things, just pet the sweaty things
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Addison C. de Lisle
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Hmm...the pole-arms are nice, and inexpensive too. Don't really care for to many of their swords though. They seem to be rather hesitant to make the blade wider than the tang on many of their models, and I question the appropriateness of the nomenclature of a few of their models...but the pole-arms are nice.
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Alexi Goranov
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To me it looks like a "Lucerne Hammer" wanna be, but unfortunately the construction is off by a mile for this type (Lucerne hammer). lucerne hammer is a modern term describing specifically poleaxes (bec-de-corbin if you'd prefer a French term ) from the Lucerene region of Switzerland. Though the general construction of the MRL piece is of the general type of most medieval poleaxes (or bec-de-corbibn , or bec-de-faucon, or fussstreiaxt, or hache, or almost any other medieval term for a poleaxe), the proportions, in my opinion are only fitting the "Lucerene hammer" type.....the constuction however does not. Definitely not on my "to get" list
The hammer, needs to be on top of the spike, like this
I do not know.....the side langets of the MRL piece also look awfully short.
Alexi
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Bob Burns
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Thanks Steve, the "Sword of Oran" is really cool looking but I dare not, as my wife has made it very clear to me that although she understands and accepts my initial investment into this most passionate hobby of mine which is in excess of seven grand or so, she wants me to display some sanity  this year (unless a certain what looks to be a very promising financial boost happens). So my main and absolute priority of the Albion Vassal (which will knock that figure up to well over 8 grand  ) is the discipline of my present agenda which does have her total OK. Oh how my eyes lit up when I first laid eyes on the concept art of the Vassal 
But that Sword of Oran is very nice. I was very fortunate to have been able to get the last MRL Towton over at K of A, which I sharpened up and put quite a point on. It's good to see MRL coming up with some new swords, the "Archers Falchion" is cool looking too, but I am absolutely resolute on my forthcoming and first falchion, I'd been wanting a falchion for quite a while and it was a dream come true when I first saw the listing of the Albion Vassal! SWEET! Oh so very SWEET!
Sincerely,
Bob
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Chuck Russell
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Oooh. *drools*
1 year till an off-campus apartment and my owning that beauty... |
yuk man, that thing is freaking ugly hehehe
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Steve Grisetti
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| Chuck Russell wrote: | | ...yuk man, that thing is freaking ugly hehehe |
Remember that 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder'. Same for ugliness, I guess. 
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Bob Burns
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Ugly? Handsome? But how well does it replicate "doing the job"?
Bob
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