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Bill Grandy
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 Posted: Wed 07 Mar, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| William J Welch wrote: | I have wondered if the wavy edge are not meant to be force multipliers. The forward edges would dig in before the rear edges there by forcing the materials apart, and deeper into the cutting surface of the wave.
I have never seen this idea given and it just seems obvious to me, after looking at some of the sword pics.  |
I've heard that theory on SFI before. I don't think it would make much of a difference, in my opinion. If the force were really multiplied to a point where there was a noticable difference, there would also be a lot more stress on the blade. Better to use an axe in that case.
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Bill Grandy
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Regarding test cutting:
One of the things that would be needed, if a flambard blade were to be tested, is a straight-edged sword with the same kind of edge geometry (minus the scallops). It could be possible that a particular wavy-edged sword had a more obtuse angle, and a straight edged sword had a more acute angle, completely throwing off the results of the test because the one with the more acute edge will most likely slice better.
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George Hill
Location: Atlanta Ga Joined: 16 May 2005
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[quote="Bill Grandy"] | William J Welch wrote: |
I've heard that theory on SFI before. I don't think it would make much of a difference, in my opinion. If the force were really multiplied to a point where there was a noticable difference, there would also be a lot more stress on the blade. Better to use an axe in that case. |
Would there be extra stress? After all, the basic idea here is concentration of available force, rather then the addition of extra force? (OR do I misunderstand?)
Hey! Could this be to make the thing 'stick' to armor, in the same way that the waffle pattern on hammer heads does? So you could strike heavy blows against plate? (Which would not cut the plate, but the force would still be significant.)
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Korey J. Lavoie
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Something hit me just now as I was reading about how historic swords sometimes had to be honed or even reground to remove a bad chip or ding on the cutting edge. I think It's most likely that the Flammard blade on these swords was adopted for multiple reasons; but what occurred to me was the possibility that the Flammard edge also helped preserve the over-all profile and edge geometry of the sword. If the Two-Handed swords were used to charge pike formations, is it probable that they would have been subjected to greater duress then swords utilized for other combat situations? If so, then perhaps the Blades were scalloped in such a manner in order to minimize the amount of repair work required by insuring that damage to the blade could only occur on an already present peak or valley. Thus eliminating the need to not only grind out edge damage but too also rework large portions of the blade profile as a result.
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