Posts: 355 Location: Höör, Skane
Wed 23 Apr, 2014 1:56 pm
| Timo Nieminen wrote: |
Nothing like this in Waldman that I saw. I haven't seen anything like this except for one being sold on ebay. Looks like a mutant partisan. |
Thanks for that, mystery still to be solved, but then I don't have to rush to get a copy of Waldman's (yet anyway)
But somehow the shape just speaks to me!
Posts: 570 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden
Wed 23 Apr, 2014 2:43 pm
It is a "korsgevär" in Swedish, from the German "Kurzgewehr" or "Kurzwehr" which was a type of polearms carried by the non-commisioned officers in the Swedish army from the late 17th Century. You also find this type of polearm in the hands of city watchmen and the firewatch in the 18th Century. The photo you posted looks very similar to the pattern of "korsgevär" that the Swedish army adopted in 1697. (Today labled "korsgevär M/1697).
Posts: 13 Location: Australia
Wed 23 Apr, 2014 5:11 pm
all this talk of different timber for hafts has me thinking, i know its not period but what about Australian Gum, i'm shafting a pole-hammer and a Dane Axe soon and i recon it would be good and strong not to mention solid
does anyone have any experience with it or just me?
Posts: 120 Location: New Zealand
Wed 23 Apr, 2014 5:30 pm
Timber for hafts
Hi Nicholas
Those of in the Southern hemisphere do indeed need to look about a bit for alternatives. ;)
I think you might find gum a bit splintery unless it was very well seasoned and prepared. That is purely based on my experience with what I have been able to get across the ditch, here.
You really need a good, long grain that is very easy to smooth and is not prone to splintering when dry or when damaged. I tried jarrah for wasters and while it is dense and strong it is short grained and prone to breaking once dry.
Luckily for you, Tasmanian White Oak is excellent - someone here imports it and I've used it for a sparth (the galloglass ancestor of the Dane Axe), for a whole set of practise pollaxes (rubber heads) and for all of the wasters I make. It has really stood up to the test to date.
Ash is very hard to find in NZ.
cheers
mike
Posts: 363 Location: Germany
Wed 23 Apr, 2014 7:31 pm
| Daniel Staberg wrote: |
| It is a "korsgevär" in Swedish, from the German "Kurzgewehr" or "Kurzwehr" which was a type of polearms carried by the non-commisioned officers in the Swedish army from the late 17th Century. You also find this type of polearm in the hands of city watchmen and the firewatch in the 18th Century. The photo you posted looks very similar to the pattern of "korsgevär" that the Swedish army adopted in 1697. (Today labled "korsgevär M/1697). |
I believe Kurzgewehr is now the name for a bull pup rifle, because I saw it translated at the in the Dresden Grünes Gewölbe.
Posts: 355 Location: Höör, Skane
Wed 23 Apr, 2014 11:32 pm
| Daniel Staberg wrote: |
| It is a "korsgevär" in Swedish, from the German "Kurzgewehr" or "Kurzwehr" which was a type of polearms carried by the non-commisioned officers in the Swedish army from the late 17th Century. You also find this type of polearm in the hands of city watchmen and the firewatch in the 18th Century. The photo you posted looks very similar to the pattern of "korsgevär" that the Swedish army adopted in 1697. (Today labled "korsgevär M/1697). |
That rings a bell! I faintly remeber seeing something like it at "Torpa Stenhus" some 30 years ago..
I was searching on spontoons to see if I could find a match, but I should have searched closer to home, I guess :)
And the good news is that then I assume that some standard haft lenght is probably recorded in some document somewhere for me to find!
And did I just make my first unintentional purchase for Great Norhtern War-reenactment? :eek:
Anyway, hopefully my repro is in transit, and I will post pictures when I get it!
Posts: 355 Location: Höör, Skane
Tue 22 Jul, 2014 1:31 am
And here is the repro:
2 foot long blade, mounted on 9 foot of ash haft for a total length of 11 foot. Quite a challenge to manouvre around, and almost as difficult to find a good place to store and display indoors :p
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