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Carl Goff
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 Posted: Fri 18 Nov, 2005 11:46 am Post subject: King Arthur director's cut-anyone seen it? |
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My college library has it in their DVD section, and I was thinking of checking it out at some point soon. I've seen the movie-was the director's cut any better?[/i]
Oh, East of sands and sunlit gulf, your blood is thin, your gods are few;
You could not break the Northern wolf and now the wolf has turned on you.
The fires that light the coasts of Spain fling shadows on the Eastern strand.
Master, your slave has come again with torch and axe in his right hand!
-Robert E. Howard
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Patrick Kelly
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Nope, not unless you want more of the same.
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Marcos Cantu
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Slightly more bloody but thats about it
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Carl Goff
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Ah. Thank you. Glad I went with The Duelists instead.
Oh, East of sands and sunlit gulf, your blood is thin, your gods are few;
You could not break the Northern wolf and now the wolf has turned on you.
The fires that light the coasts of Spain fling shadows on the Eastern strand.
Master, your slave has come again with torch and axe in his right hand!
-Robert E. Howard
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John Cooksey
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King Arthur isn't all bad.
At least it has Sarmatians in it, albeit rather un-Sarmatian-like Sarmatians with British accents. :-)
I think it's the only movie I have ever seen that had any kind of ancient Iranian nomads in it, however inaccurately portrayed.
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Jonathon Janusz
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I thought it was better. Still not a phenomenal movie by any measure, but a good Saturday afternoon kind of thing. Take it with a grain of salt and you'll have fun with an action movie for a couple hours.
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Hisham Gaballa
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It was still rubbish I'm afraid. No real story at all, just one battle scene after another, with an absolute minimum of plot in between.
It also gets me that despite all the books available on the Romans, and we are talking about books for the general reader not just scholarly works, and the valiant efforts of various reenactment societies, Hollywood just sticks two fingers up and says "stuff you, we've got our preconceptions and we're sticking to them". 
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Paul Mortimer
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It is the only time that I have bought a director's cut and wished I hadn't bothered. In fact I wished that I hadn't bought the film at all!
Paul
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Chuck Russell
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i got it for Christmas last year. i havent seen past where the clergy guy shows up and they ride to some fort in the middle of celt land. ug this movie was horrible at best. as an authorian historian i find it insulting to say the least. armour, actors, scenery, plot if any, costumes EVERYTHING was wrong for the "true life" perspective of the real king author if there was one.
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Patrick Kelly
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I think everyone's being too hard on this movie. Afterall, they had to do something with all of those props, costumes,and extras when Xena Warrior Princess was cancelled. I think they've all moved on to Capitol One commercials. 
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Micha Hofmann
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Well, since King Arthur was the only "large battles with swords-movie" that I started to fast forward even during the battle scenes, I'm not going to even get near the directors cut.
I'll probably give "Kingdom of Heaven"'s DC a chance, though.
And I absolutely understand when someone prefers "the duelists". That's a great movie.
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Steve Grisetti
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| Patrick Kelly wrote: | | I think everyone's being too hard on this movie. Afterall, they had to do something with all of those props, costumes,and extras when Xena Warrior Princess was cancelled. I think they've all moved on to Capitol One commercials. |
Which was a really good move, since those commercials are great fun!
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Carl Goff
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| Micha Hofmann wrote: | | And I absolutely understand when someone prefers "the duelists". That's a great movie. |
I actually checked it out because I remember someone here commenting on how good it was. Going to watch it tonight.
Oh, East of sands and sunlit gulf, your blood is thin, your gods are few;
You could not break the Northern wolf and now the wolf has turned on you.
The fires that light the coasts of Spain fling shadows on the Eastern strand.
Master, your slave has come again with torch and axe in his right hand!
-Robert E. Howard
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John Cooksey
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| Steve Grisetti wrote: | | Patrick Kelly wrote: | | I think everyone's being too hard on this movie. Afterall, they had to do something with all of those props, costumes,and extras when Xena Warrior Princess was cancelled. I think they've all moved on to Capitol One commercials. |
Which was a really good move, since those commercials are great fun! |
I love those commercials!
And I still occasionally like to watch Xena and Hercules. :-)
I have never seen a Hollywood movie (or for that matter, even a documentary) that I thought was very historically accurate. Except for Indiana Jones . . . . . . as an archaeologist, I tell my students that Indiana Jones is always right (from a certain point of view).
So at this point, I limit myself to enjoying a movie for its own sake and to applauding what little historical details they do manage to get right.
I so want to watch Oliver Stone's "Alexander" because it depicts Achaemenid Persians, but I can't quite bring myself to do it because all of my friends have told me that it was atrociously bad . . . . . .
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Jean Thibodeau
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John.
if you wait long enough Alexander may end up in a bargain bin: Might be worth it at $9.95, might buy it myself eventually just for the battle scenes that I hope might be worth it.
I've occasionally liked a film that everybody hated: Weird tastes sometimes or something that would only appeal to a " Sci. Fi.
Geek. "
Have you ever seen the " Old " Alexander movie with Richard Burton made in 1955
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Hisham Gaballa
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| Patrick Kelly wrote: | | I think everyone's being too hard on this movie. Afterall, they had to do something with all of those props, costumes,and extras when Xena Warrior Princess was cancelled. I think they've all moved on to Capitol One commercials. |
Actually the Capital One adverts aren't half bad, a heck of a lot more research went into them.
Call me perverse, but IMHO Stone's Alexander wasn't that bad, although it wasn't great either. I actually quite enjoyed it on the whole, and I was quite miffed that they cut out the siege of Tyre and the Egyptian campaign, I could have happily sat through another hour of it. As for the armour and weapons, while not perfect they were a lot more accurate. Stone actually did have people wearing Boeotian and Phrygian style helmets, as well as linothoraxes.
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I did see Richard Burton's Alexander many, many years ago. I had just read Connolly's "The Ancient Greeks" so the inaccuracies set my teeth on edge. However I was able to remind myself that the film was made in the 50ies. They actually managed to cram a lot more History in than Stone did. There was one curious parallel: Burton's hideous blonde wig was almost as bad as Farrell's dyed blonde barnet.
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John Cooksey
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| Jean Thibodeau wrote: | John.
if you wait long enough Alexander may end up in a bargain bin: Might be worth it at $9.95, might buy it myself eventually just for the battle scenes that I hope might be worth it.
I've occasionally liked a film that everybody hated: Weird tastes sometimes or something that would only appeal to a " Sci. Fi.
Geek. "
Have you ever seen the " Old " Alexander movie with Richard Burton made in 1955 |
Actually, yes, I have seen the version with Richard Burton!
I swear I have seen all those old 50's "ancient" epics . . . . . .
I will either rent the Stone version or buy it on the cheap, someday.
Oh, I like a lot of films that aren't really well-received. :-)
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Steve Grisetti
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| Jean Thibodeau wrote: | | ...if you wait long enough Alexander may end up in a bargain bin: Might be worth it at $9.95.... |
Same philosophy, here. I just bought Troy as part of a 2 for $12 deal at Blockbuster.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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C. Stackhouse
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Honestly, I don't see what you guys have against the movie King Arthur, I own the director's cut and if you take it for what it is (a hack and slash action movie with a plot sewn around stab wounds and axe maimings) than it delivers in every way. It was meant to be an entertaining piece of film, something to make money and delight the audience.
They say that the movie is historically accurate to initially capture the audience, and for the most part people believe it. Only the geeks on this forum (myself included) would actually take the extra time to research the historical accuracy of Lancelot's sword tang or magnifying the screen to double check if the pommel of Cerdic's sword really was of Saxon design. 
If you want accuracy, watch a documentary 
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Patrick Kelly
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Historical accuracy aside I simply don't think it's a well made movie. The plot has too many holes, the dialog is sophomoric at best, and the production values aren't that great.
I don't have anything "against" it, I just don't think it's very good.
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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