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Eric Myers




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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Point of balance for great swords?         Reply with quote

Hi,

Does anyone here have any info about where the point of balance should be for a great /two-handed sword? I'm looking at making or buying a waster with a 48" blade and 15" grip, and would like to get this detail at least ballpark correct, otherwise I could just use a closet pole Laughing Out Loud Most of the replicas I've handled are particularly unwieldy due to weight and perhaps POB, so they aren't really much help.

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Gary Grzybek




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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Point of balance for great swords?         Reply with quote

Eric Myers wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone here have any info about where the point of balance should be for a great /two-handed sword? I'm looking at making or buying a waster with a 48" blade and 15" grip, and would like to get this detail at least ballpark correct, otherwise I could just use a closet pole Laughing Out Loud Most of the replicas I've handled are particularly unwieldy due to weight and perhaps POB, so they aren't really much help.

Thanks,



My Greatsword wasters POB is about 8" past the guard and it's very manuverable. The OL is 53" if that helps at all. Sadly, I haven't handled any true two handed repro's that felt really good..........yet Big Grin

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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My A & A 15th century English twohander has a balance point about 6" past the guard with a 46" blade.
( Check on A & A site )

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Eric Myers




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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you both. Jean, did you get a custom piece? I see an English Longsword with a 33" blade, and a German twohander.
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just their standard model but a real sword not a wall hanger: In any case A & A doesn't make wall hangers.

Here is the one I'm talking about: http://www.arms-n-armor.com/sword156.html

This is a much bigger sword than it looks like in the Picts.

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Eric Myers




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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 6:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Jean, not sure how I missed that one...
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Don Stanko




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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello Eric. I have 2 Two-handed swords, one from the 13th century and one from the 14th century. Now they are a bit corroded and missing proper grips but both balance approximately four fingers from the crossguard. I have 2 hand and a half swords as well. They are from the 15th century and intact, they also balance about four fingers from the guard. Hopefully this helps.
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Alexander Ren




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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Take a look at the specs on http://www.angustrimdirect.com/. There are a couple of hand-and-half and two handers that I am told are anything but unwieldy. There is a review of one of them in the myArmoury reviews section http://www.myArmoury.com/review_at1592.html.

Don Stanko wrote:
Hello Eric. I have 2 Two-handed swords, one from the 13th century and one from the 14th century. Now they are a bit corroded and missing proper grips but both balance approximately four fingers from the crossguard. I have 2 hand and a half swords as well. They are from the 15th century and intact, they also balance about four fingers from the guard. Hopefully this helps.


I know it is off the subject but could you post pictures please? Big Grin

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John Cooksey




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PostPosted: Fri 18 Nov, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hmmmm, that would be a big sword.
Damned big sword . . . . .

With my bastard swords (not real two-handers), I like the POB to be anywhere between 5 and 8 inches out, depending on the size and style.

And remember, the waster is always gonna be a fair bit lighter than a real sword, so the POB doesn't have to be in the exact same place to get a similar "feel".

Look at a good Bokken, they balance almost in the middle of the weapon, but they manage to simulate a kat pretty well because of the difference in overall weight.
Actually, come to think of it, I like bokken better than kats. :-)
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Don Stanko




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PostPosted: Fri 18 Nov, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: A few great swords         Reply with quote

At Alexanders request, a few photos of my two handed and hand and a half swords...Enjoy!


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