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Eric Myers
Location: Sacramento, CA Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: Point of balance for great swords? |
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Hi,
Does anyone here have any info about where the point of balance should be for a great /two-handed sword? I'm looking at making or buying a waster with a 48" blade and 15" grip, and would like to get this detail at least ballpark correct, otherwise I could just use a closet pole Most of the replicas I've handled are particularly unwieldy due to weight and perhaps POB, so they aren't really much help.
Thanks,
Eric Myers
Sacramento Sword School
ViaHup.com - Wiki di Scherma Italiana
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Gary Grzybek
Location: Stillwater N.J. Joined: 25 Aug 2003
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Posted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Point of balance for great swords? |
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Eric Myers wrote: | Hi,
Does anyone here have any info about where the point of balance should be for a great /two-handed sword? I'm looking at making or buying a waster with a 48" blade and 15" grip, and would like to get this detail at least ballpark correct, otherwise I could just use a closet pole Most of the replicas I've handled are particularly unwieldy due to weight and perhaps POB, so they aren't really much help.
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My Greatsword wasters POB is about 8" past the guard and it's very manuverable. The OL is 53" if that helps at all. Sadly, I haven't handled any true two handed repro's that felt really good..........yet
Gary Grzybek
ARMA Northern N.J.
www.armastudy.org
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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My A & A 15th century English twohander has a balance point about 6" past the guard with a 46" blade.
( Check on A & A site )
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Eric Myers
Location: Sacramento, CA Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Just their standard model but a real sword not a wall hanger: In any case A & A doesn't make wall hangers.
Here is the one I'm talking about: http://www.arms-n-armor.com/sword156.html
This is a much bigger sword than it looks like in the Picts.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Eric Myers
Location: Sacramento, CA Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Don Stanko
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Posted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Eric. I have 2 Two-handed swords, one from the 13th century and one from the 14th century. Now they are a bit corroded and missing proper grips but both balance approximately four fingers from the crossguard. I have 2 hand and a half swords as well. They are from the 15th century and intact, they also balance about four fingers from the guard. Hopefully this helps.
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Alexander Ren
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Posted: Thu 17 Nov, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Take a look at the specs on http://www.angustrimdirect.com/. There are a couple of hand-and-half and two handers that I am told are anything but unwieldy. There is a review of one of them in the myArmoury reviews section http://www.myArmoury.com/review_at1592.html.
Don Stanko wrote: | Hello Eric. I have 2 Two-handed swords, one from the 13th century and one from the 14th century. Now they are a bit corroded and missing proper grips but both balance approximately four fingers from the crossguard. I have 2 hand and a half swords as well. They are from the 15th century and intact, they also balance about four fingers from the guard. Hopefully this helps. |
I know it is off the subject but could you post pictures please?
Thanks... Alex
"The more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in battle."
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John Cooksey
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Posted: Fri 18 Nov, 2005 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Hmmmm, that would be a big sword.
Damned big sword . . . . .
With my bastard swords (not real two-handers), I like the POB to be anywhere between 5 and 8 inches out, depending on the size and style.
And remember, the waster is always gonna be a fair bit lighter than a real sword, so the POB doesn't have to be in the exact same place to get a similar "feel".
Look at a good Bokken, they balance almost in the middle of the weapon, but they manage to simulate a kat pretty well because of the difference in overall weight.
Actually, come to think of it, I like bokken better than kats. :-)
Nothing beats a good cudgel! :-)
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Don Stanko
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Posted: Fri 18 Nov, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: A few great swords |
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At Alexanders request, a few photos of my two handed and hand and a half swords...Enjoy!
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