[Wesley Nilsen]

Is the only correct definition for "broadsword" the usual basket-hilted broadsword, or are there broadswords without basket-hilts? I've heard of the "Norman broadsword" and the "archer's broadsword", which are usually just arming swords with simple cruciform hilts, long-ish grips and exceptionally wide blades. Are there any historical examples of these types of swords, and are they ever classified as broadswords? Does a broadsword have to have a certain shape of blade to be a true broadsword? I've wondered this for a long time.

[Glen A Cleeton]

Hi Wesley

Broadsword is really a modern term that is used to describe a number of genre and types pf swords. I wouldn't get hung up on the term but rather look at the Oakeshott series of feature articles here at myArmoury.
http://www.myArmoury.com/features.html

It is generally easier to look at the Oakeshott classifications to determine a sword from the medieval period from the NOrman conquest up to the renaissance period. Then you have both earlier periods and later periods with their own jargon and classifications.

The basket hilts get labeled as broadswords or backswords to define whether there is a single edge or two. This holds sway even into the 19th century to differentiate between a spadroon or broadsword.blade. Both of these latter are actually quite slim blades in comparison to a broad medieval type.

My 1850s eagle pommel is an example of a late British broadsword blade. Then compare that to a backsword or spadroon. To confuse things further, many swords will be labeled as cut&thrust That, perhaps to lead that such are narrower pointy things but still have a working edge.

Cheers

GC

[Anders Backlund]

Like Glen says, "broadsword" is a modern and somewhat vague term. Though, if we define it in this particular context as "Renaissance or post-Renaissance era cavalry-type cut-and-thrust sword", I would say there are indeed a few type of blades that falls in that category without having a basket hilt:

This sword is refered to as a "Venetian Broadsword" in the albums:



And in this photo, I might consider the one between the rapier and the katzbalger to be of this type as well:



As I understand it, the blades used for broadswords of the time were mostly manufactured in one place like for example Solingen, then exported to other countries where they were hilted locally. So it wouldn't surprise me of this type of blade shows up on a few non-baskethilted swords.

[Wesley Nilsen]

Hmm...I probably would have thought the sword in the second picture was some kind of side sword, but I can't see the tip - is it more broadsword-ish, or cut and thrust-ish? A for the one in the first picture, that actually really looks like a schiavona with the basket hilt removed or something. What are the usual characteristics of a Venetian broadsword?

[Ryan S.]

so is a broadsword just a sword with two complete edges?

[Wesley Nilsen]

[Luka Borscak]

In the period when the term was invented there were mostly rapiers, smallswords, backswords and broadswords. Longsword and two hander was rarely used by that time. So it was basically double edged sword broader than smallsword or rapier.

[Anders Backlund]

[Lafayette C Curtis]

A simple summary:

http://www.thearma.org/essays/broadsword.htm