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Stephen Hand
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Posted: Fri 21 Oct, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't heard MRMA before. HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) is often used, as are the terms historical fencing, historical swordsmanship and historical swordplay. Ultimately as long as it's clear what you're talking about, you can call it what you like.
To get back to the original question about the origins of martial arts, a martial art is a systematic method of fighting that can be taught (I don't see that sporting contests are at all necessary in defining a martial art - some would claim that when sporting contests appear it ceases to be a martial art and becomes a martial sport - nor does a formal school or master student relationship need to be present, if one person is teaching systematic fighting skills to another, then a martial art exists). Therefore martial arts probably originated when caveman Ogg taught his cool moves to caveman Zogg.
Cheers
Stephen
Stephen Hand
Editor, Spada, Spada II
Author of English Swordsmanship, Medieval Sword and Shield
Stoccata School of Defence
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Joachim Nilsson
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Posted: Sat 22 Oct, 2005 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Stephen Hand wrote: | I haven't heard MRMA before. |
That is probably because Martin just made it up right now.
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Martin Wallgren
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Posted: Sun 23 Oct, 2005 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Joachim Nilsson wrote: | Stephen Hand wrote: | I haven't heard MRMA before. |
That is probably because Martin just made it up right now. |
Yepp;)
Martin
Swordsman, Archer and Dad
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David Black Mastro
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Posted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Stephen Hand wrote: | Therefore martial arts probably originated when caveman Ogg taught his cool moves to caveman Zogg. |
Yes! The dreaded Ogg-ryu of Pleistocene times! I understand that this paleolithic school of combat featured the following curricula:
fist-jutsu
stone-jutsu
club-jutsu
In addition, there were "secret" moves, like the Austrailopithicus Stomp and the Neanderthal Noogie.
"Why meddle with us--you are not strong enough to break us--you know that you have won the battle and slaughtered our army--be content with your honor, and leave us alone, for by God's good will only have we escaped from this business" --unknown Spanish captain to the Chevalier Bayard, at the Battle of Ravenna, 1512
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