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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Thu 22 Sep, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Making a scabbard         Reply with quote

does anyone have any helpful suggestions? i tried one but then i have no patience so it ended up inpieces heheh help?
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Patrick Kelly




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PostPosted: Thu 22 Sep, 2005 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Making a scabbard         Reply with quote

Chuck Russell wrote:
does anyone have any helpful suggestions? i tried one but then i have no patience so it ended up inpieces heheh help?


An excellent primer on scabbards by Peter Johnsson.

Even if you aren't interested in the interlaced belt the suggestions on core and cover construction are quite helpful.

"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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C.L. Miller




PostPosted: Thu 22 Sep, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

WOW! Thank you for sharing this Patrick!

-C.L.Miller
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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005 4:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thanks i have that Happy just looking for some other pointers.

thanks thogh
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Joel Whitmore




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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005 12:37 pm    Post subject: NEat Patrick!         Reply with quote

Patrick has all the neatest stuff at his place! Where's you get that photo Patrick? It's a brilliant one-page on scabbard making! Thanks Peter for sharing.

Joel
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Patrick Kelly




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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Peter posted it up two or three years ago on SFI, or someone Peter had given it to posted it, I don't remember. I saved it since I thought it was a very good how-to on medieval scabbard making. It's also a nice drawing. Big Grin
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Anton de Vries





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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The most important thing is to look at (pics of) nice scabbards, until you're really, and I mean really jealous.
Then you either make one or buy one. It's as easy as that.
Alright let's start with my Mercenary scabbard (finished today!).
Scabbard and pictures by Eric L. Thanks Eric!



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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Uh...reversed order...sorry WTF?!
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Steve Grisetti




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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Anton de Vries wrote:
Uh...reversed order...sorry WTF?!

Figured that out pretty quickly. It's a beauty, Anton.
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Greyson Brown




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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep, 2005 2:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, I feel silly now. I always assumed that the ridges and what not were carved out of the scabbard. I suppose you could do that but why didn't I think of gluing on risers just like you would with a grip? Glad I saw those pictures before I attempted one the hard way. Maybe now I can avoid some unnecessary frustration!

-Grey

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Eric L.




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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Your welcome Anton, and thanks for letting me make it for you.

I have here a link to some of my work maybe it gives some of you who want to make there own scabbard more ideas.

http://community.webshots.com/album/307265159QmeVSe
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Thomas Hoogendam




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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Anton de Vries wrote:
The most important thing is to look at (pics of) nice scabbards, until you're really, and I mean really jealous.
Then you either make one or buy one. It's as easy as that.
Alright let's start with my Mercenary scabbard (finished today!).
Scabbard and pictures by Eric L. Thanks Eric!


Wow, Eric told me he was making these, I didn't know they were finished already!!!! Fantastic work Eric!!! If money permits it, I might have to send you something soon. Big Grin
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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

how thick/thin should leather be? that maybe 1 prob i am having.
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George Hill




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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep, 2005 10:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chuck Russell wrote:
how thick/thin should leather be? that maybe 1 prob i am having.


Also, how do you get the leather to um.. conform to the risers? Is it as simple as glue and pushing?

To abandon your shield is the basest of crimes. - --Tacitus on Germania
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Eric L.




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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I use 2mm couch leather, it feels very flexible in your hands, like a piece of cloth, so it will follow the contours very well.
The pro`s use 1mm leather that has not been dyed yet, and it has no print like couch leather.

Some extra info;
To apply the glue i use what`s in the pics. I cut it in smaller pieces and use the soft side to apply the glue evenly on the surface of the wood. I use Bison-tix. For the leather i use the tool that comes with the glue. I do one side first, u can put the wood on the leather and draw out the form so u know where the glue has to stop. Then i do one half and let it go a little over the middel of the wood. Then i tape the otherside of the leather over it and cut with a very thin sharp knife through the middel.
When done, and having removed the piece that `s over the middel, the 2 sides should come together very nicly. Then i put tape along the edge of the leather piece that`s already glued, to protect it from getting glue on it. And then i glue the other side.



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Eric L.




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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

George Hill wrote:
Chuck Russell wrote:
how thick/thin should leather be? that maybe 1 prob i am having.


Also, how do you get the leather to um.. conform to the risers? Is it as simple as glue and pushing?


Hi George, yes you just push with a piece of cloth. And by using Bison-tix it sticks very fast, you can not move it once u make contact.
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Anton de Vries





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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep, 2005 1:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thomas Hoogendam wrote:
Fantastic work Eric!!! If money permits it, I might have to send you something soon.

An additional bonus is that you get to handle Eric's cool sword collection. He might as well charge extra for that, as it's worth it. Laughing Out Loud
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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

couch leather? hmmmmmmm not following. like very thin chrome tanned stuff?
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Eric L.




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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is a pics.

You should try to find a store that does furniture refurbishing and has a lot of leather in various colors to pick from.



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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jan, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm reviving this thread because I'm an interesting in making a scabbard myself.


I have a few questions:


How would you carve the wood to perfectly fit the sword? It seems to me that there is no room for error and just the slightest tenth of a millimeter would make your scabbard loose. Personally, I want it so it will just barely hold on when tipped upside down and have absolutely no nottle when shaken.

What wood should I use? I've heard poplar before but I need to make absolutely sure.

Is it possible to recycle chapes? I'm not going into metalworking anytime soon and I have three leather scabbards that I could use chapes from.

how would I go about hollowing out the wood?


Thanks for your time!
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