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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Sat 26 Mar, 2022 9:39 am    Post subject: mongol saber similarities and differences         Reply with quote

Hi people, been curious to know if any had knowledge about mongol sabers from the 13th century. i saw some depicted very similarily as magyar and others from the same era...

so i was wondering what made them different and how to tell them apart? i'm asking because i'd like to tackle a mongol saber project but since i only have a few pictures to go with i lack a bit more informations like was there a peened variant once upon a time?

i would think that they were pretty similar to a 9th century magyar from V. Berbekucz that i saw from a post here but i'm unsure... (i sure like the look of that blade! YUM!)

my go to steel would be 5160 since i have a bar of it but might have it waterjet cut in half lenghtwise for the ease of forging...

thanks for the help!
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Dan Howard




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PostPosted: Sat 26 Mar, 2022 6:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

As far as I can tell they aren't any different to Turkish sabres from the same period. There seem to be a lot more extant Turkish sabres so it might prove productive to study those.
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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Sat 26 Mar, 2022 6:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dan Howard wrote:
As far as I can tell they aren't any different to Turkish sabres from the same period. There seem to be a lot more extant Turkish sabres so it might prove productive to study those.


what about the hungarian sabers from the 9th to 13th centuries? i can see similarities with those and a few others. i guess every civilisation that lived in some kind of steppes had something similar.

seems like those sabers were found in very widespread areas because of the turkish people... magyar, avar, mongol, turks...

well now that i have a bit more to look at i really have to have that 5160 waterjet cut into narrower bars... hoping to be able to start the project but i bet it will be hard...
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Ryan S.




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PostPosted: Sun 27 Mar, 2022 3:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Isn't Hungarian and Magyar the same?
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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Sun 27 Mar, 2022 9:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ryan S. wrote:
Isn't Hungarian and Magyar the same?


they are, i just seem to have had a brain fart while reading ^^'
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