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Jeremy V. Krause
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 Posted: Tue 06 Jul, 2021 6:45 am Post subject: Anyone handled A&A Hungarian longsword |
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Hi everyone,
I have become interested in these larger type XIs with slightly longer grips but have no experience with one.
Going with a stock Hungarian Sword would certainly be a bit cheaper than going custom so I was just curious if anyone had handled one and what they thought of it.
Also how common is this type in history? I don't really remember seeing any but it's been a while since I looked through my books.
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J.D. Crawford
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| Posted: Tue 06 Jul, 2021 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone handled A&A Hungarian longsword |
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| Jeremy V. Krause wrote: | Hi everyone,
I have become interested in these larger type XIs with slightly longer grips but have no experience with one.
Going with a stock Hungarian Sword would certainly be a bit cheaper than going custom so I was just curious if anyone had handled one and what they thought of it.
Also how common is this type in history? I don't really remember seeing any but it's been a while since I looked through my books. |
Hi Jeremy.
I've been eyeing this one for a while as well.
It's based on a piece shown and described in 'Mediaeval Swords from Southeastern Europe. Material from 12th to 15th Century, 2007, by Marko Aleksić'.
This family of German-Hungarian swords is very large. The original has a slightly wider blade (2" I think) and slightly longer handle by about 1/4". I assume A&A scaled it down a bit for easier handling and price.
I'd rather have the original dimensions. At some point Craig told me he could do those mods for me, but we didn't follow up.
-Doug
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Jeremy V. Krause
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| Posted: Wed 07 Jul, 2021 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Doug,
Yes I saw the reviews posted above.
Now that you tell me about the original dimensions I would want to go that route too- if I decided to pick up this sword.
I wonder how it handles- how stiff- how much blade presence. I wonder how the dynamics of the original would compare to those of the standard item.
I just don't have any swords in this family- the extra length in the grip is really fascinating.
Also I tried to pick up that book a while back but it wasn't on Amazon- not sure why.
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| Posted: Wed 07 Jul, 2021 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Mediaeval Swords From Southwestern Europe, by Marco Aleksic, is a terrific book and has some gems in it. I've eyed that model at A&A more than once myself. You could ask Craig to make it with the longer grip and beefier blade. I'm sure he would do it for you. This type of sword doesn't seem terribly uncommon. Geibig's book has quite a few, and I think Records Xa.10 is similar too. In Geibig's book, look at pages 214, 237, 243, 257, and 259. The first has the triple fuller, but in everything else, it's an XI. The others all seem to be pretty clear XIs with unusually long grips. I've come across a fair amount of museum photos of this type too, so it seems under represented in the replica market. My vote is that you do it. I get a vote, right...?
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Jeremy V. Krause
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| Posted: Thu 08 Jul, 2021 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| Tim Lison wrote: | | Mediaeval Swords From Southwestern Europe, by Marco Aleksic, is a terrific book and has some gems in it. I've eyed that model at A&A more than once myself. You could ask Craig to make it with the longer grip and beefier blade. I'm sure he would do it for you. This type of sword doesn't seem terribly uncommon. Geibig's book has quite a few, and I think Records Xa.10 is similar too. In Geibig's book, look at pages 214, 237, 243, 257, and 259. The first has the triple fuller, but in everything else, it's an XI. The others all seem to be pretty clear XIs with unusually long grips. I've come across a fair amount of museum photos of this type too, so it seems under represented in the replica market. My vote is that you do it. I get a vote, right...? |
Thanks for the post. I wish I had Geibig's book.
It's a fascinating type- I do think I need one of this class.
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J.D. Crawford
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| Posted: Thu 08 Jul, 2021 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if the pommel is exactly right either, but its in the right ballpark.
However, I would also suggest a grip upgrade. A sword that size will handle better with a few risers on the grip.
Maybe Craig would be more motivated if he got 2-3 requests for the same 'historically correct' version.
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