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Kai Lawson





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PostPosted: Wed 16 Oct, 2019 9:09 am    Post subject: Archeological Report for Pouan-les-Vallées         Reply with quote

Does anyone have any information on the original report for the finds at Pouan? I’m specifically looking for works dealing with the discovered spatha, like dimensions and materials analysis, but I’ll take pretty much anything.

I can work with French and German, but publications or people to contact for more info in any language will work for me too.

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Pedro Paulo Gaião




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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jun, 2023 11:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This set of spatha and langseax is awesome, poorly known, unfortunately.

There's a better picture of both here:

https://www.meisterdrucke.ie/fine-art-prints/Merovingian/152131/Two-swords-with-decorated-hilts-and-two-belt-buckles,-from-the-Pouan-Treasure-%28gold,-iron-and-garnet%29.html

I just know the info from wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_of_Pouan

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Len Parker





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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jun, 2023 10:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

https://www.persee.fr/doc/galia_0016-4119_1956_num_14_1_1456 Is that saying the blade with is 6.5cm wide? That hilt picture must be out of proportion.
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Len Parker





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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jun, 2023 10:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This https://foucautalain9.wixsite.com/patrimoine-urbain/single-post/2018/02/27/le-tr%C3%A9sor-de-pouan has it 873mm long, 68mm wide.
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Pedro Paulo Gaião




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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jun, 2023 2:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Len Parker wrote:
https://www.persee.fr/doc/galia_0016-4119_1956_num_14_1_1456 Is that saying the blade with is 6.5cm wide? That hilt picture must be out of proportion.


I got accurate measures for both the spatha and the langseax from Julian Ronneberger:

Seax: 60.2cm long, 30mm blade wide at base. The Spatha is 68mm wide at base and 873mm total length.

Yes, the blade is wider than the most wide English spatha:
"These measurements give a maximum blade-width range of 49-62.5cm, of which four were 52-57mm. Two, however, were 62-62.5cm wide, which compare to the two widest extant blades - those from the Prittlewell princely burial (60-62mm) and Sutton-Hoo mound 1 (c. 64mm)."
https://www.thegns.org/blog/when-is-a-sword-not-a-sweord

The Sutton Hoo sword also features the garnet and gold decoration seen in this Visigothic finding. It's pretty popular during the 5th to 7th centuries

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Len Parker





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PostPosted: Fri 25 Aug, 2023 7:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's one with a 7.7cm wide blade: https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/double-edged-sword-spatha-with-goldengrip-sleeve-metal-sheeted-two-strap-metal-fittings-and-sword-pendants/wgFzWrrp9vFSSQ
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