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Rich Knack




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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar, 2018 8:06 am    Post subject: WotR infantry sword beld/suspension/scabbard?         Reply with quote

Took the plunge and ordered one of these to go with my Wars of the Roses infantryman's kit: https://www.wulflund.com/weapons/swords/other-swords/ellerton-medieval-falchion.html/

I do not believe it comes with any sort of scabbard, and it CERTAINLY does not come with a sword belt. I do leatherworking (In fact, I have a belt I made to go with my Windlass Oakeshott type XIV, along with a scabbard for my rondel dagger). Can someone direct me to some good photos of what a period-correct belt, scabbard, and suspension system for this kind of sword would have been (period artwork, originals, authentic replicas, etc.)?

Also, were all sword scabbards at that time wood-cored? Or were there any plain, leather scabbards in existence for swords? I know a lot of dagger/knife sheaths were plain leather, but I am talking long blades now. Also, what hardware would be period-correct? Don't want to make a 15th century belt with 13th or 14th century fittings, for example.

For that matter, would a rondel dagger be out of place for my outfit or would I be better off with a ballock dagger? Or were they contemporaries?

"Those who 'beat their swords into plows', will plow for those who don't."
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Harry Marinakis




PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar, 2018 3:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Scabbards: wood core, leather cover. If the wood core fits well, then strip it and make your own cover and suspension. If the wood core doesn't fit, then throw it all away and start from scratch. It's not that difficult to make your own scabbard, and it's very rewarding.

Suspension: http://myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=33670&highlight=
This is typical suspension for that time period.

Hardware: http://www.walesher1974.org/herumd.php?group=...=301363015
Buckles through the Ages

Research source: http://manuscriptminiatures.com/search/?year=...anuscript=
search tags were England 1400-1500
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Harry Marinakis




PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr, 2018 8:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just found this thread that might be of interest, if you haven't already seen it:

http://myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=34206
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Apr, 2018 1:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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