Actually, both :D .
I see from the pictures that it's just a goofy grind job. It' almost like the started with a double fuller + blade bevel and then changed their minds part way in. Interesting.
Thanks,
| Nate C. wrote: |
| Actually, both :D .
I see from the pictures that it's just a goofy grind job. It' almost like the started with a double fuller + blade bevel and then changed their minds part way in. Interesting.Thanks, |
Hi Nate
The blade on this piece is very stout and has a dramatic wedge shaped taper to it !
I think the extra fuller carving (3 actually, nearest the hilt) is just an attempt to reduce some of the weight, as the ricasso is sizable !
Plus there is the whole fashion aspect of it to consider !
Mac
West Street Antiques currently has this nice piece for sale which has a very similar blade to the sword I picked up !
http://www.antiquearmsandarmour.com/stock_detail.asp?ID=433
It's listed as a rare Royal Horseguards sword, c. 1755 .
Mac
http://www.antiquearmsandarmour.com/stock_detail.asp?ID=433
It's listed as a rare Royal Horseguards sword, c. 1755 .
Mac
Thinking some more about this perticular blade design .....
Attached are a few more examples of basket-hilts with these style blades !
First two images are from Richard Bezdek's fine book "Swords & Swordmakers of England & Scotland" , the 3rd is a picture I took of the 2nd one at Pat's table during the Las Vegas Antique Arms Show.
The forth image is from George Neumann's excellent "Swords & Blades of the American Revolution" .
Anyways ..... it's got me wondering ?
First off ....... It's interesting to note how the fullers all run off into the tip !
(so regardless of my example being cut-down, some probable 6" inches, it still would have run off at the tip !
Secondly ..... Was this style blade only a product of Harvey's workshop, of the mid-18th century ?
Thirdly .......... Is this style only (originally) used on (English) basket-hilted swords, or has anyone seen them on another style hilt ?
Ya got me thinking, Nate :-) Mac
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Attached are a few more examples of basket-hilts with these style blades !
First two images are from Richard Bezdek's fine book "Swords & Swordmakers of England & Scotland" , the 3rd is a picture I took of the 2nd one at Pat's table during the Las Vegas Antique Arms Show.
The forth image is from George Neumann's excellent "Swords & Blades of the American Revolution" .
Anyways ..... it's got me wondering ?
First off ....... It's interesting to note how the fullers all run off into the tip !
(so regardless of my example being cut-down, some probable 6" inches, it still would have run off at the tip !
Secondly ..... Was this style blade only a product of Harvey's workshop, of the mid-18th century ?
Thirdly .......... Is this style only (originally) used on (English) basket-hilted swords, or has anyone seen them on another style hilt ?
Ya got me thinking, Nate :-) Mac
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Congratulations, Mac!
A very fine sword it is!
Cheers,
Henrik
A very fine sword it is!
Cheers,
Henrik
| Henrik Bjoern Boegh wrote: |
| Congratulations, Mac! A very fine sword it is! Cheers, Henrik |
Thanks, Henrik !
Another feature of these blades to note is their rather long false edges !
If my blade lost a good 6" + inches, and the remaining false edge is still 6" inches, that puts the original area out past the 12" inch mark !
Mac
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Forthly ..... Are these blades (with their stout wedged shape design) strictly a cavalry thing ?
(as I've yet to see one on a non-Cav piece ?)
Where's Eljay :-) Mac
*Photos - The Canadian Journal of Arms Collecting. Vol. 7,No. 3. "The British Basket Hilted Cavalry Sword", by A.D. Darling.
(as I've yet to see one on a non-Cav piece ?)
Where's Eljay :-) Mac
*Photos - The Canadian Journal of Arms Collecting. Vol. 7,No. 3. "The British Basket Hilted Cavalry Sword", by A.D. Darling.
Brian Robson's book, "Swords of the British Army", has this Dragoon piece ......
The description interestingly notes that the 3 fullers, nearest the hilt, are an "uncommon feature in military swords" ! ?
Mac
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The description interestingly notes that the 3 fullers, nearest the hilt, are an "uncommon feature in military swords" ! ?
Mac
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| ... Ya got me thinking, Nate :-) Mac |
Uh, oh. Thinking can be a dangerous (and expensive) hobby but you don't need me to tell you that :D . As to the commonality of these, maybe it being a cavalry (?) pattern, it is less common than say an infantry pattern? Or the book could be wrong :p as has happened before. Nifty pictures,I esp. like the dragoon.
Cheers,
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