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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Mon 13 Oct, 2003 3:19 am    Post subject: Ring Hilt from Dublin Museum         Reply with quote

Been working with a company having an replica of a ring Hilt sword from the dublin museum made. ANyway I needed to get some close-ups of the hilt etc as the camera I originally used was fairly old. Anyway, Juts thought some of you may be interested in the images.

http://homepage.eircom.net/~jimflan/ciaranswords.zip

Its an 11 meg file as I did no reduction in order to capture as much detail as I could.

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Jeff Stewart




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PostPosted: Mon 13 Oct, 2003 1:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing those pictures! It was quite a hefty download for me with my good ole not-so reliable dial-up connection, but well worth it. Im really looking forward to seeing pics of your sword when it gets finished and hearing all about how it handles.
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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2003 3:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Jeff :-) Since its my first custome Job Ill be posting all aver the place about this one LOL...not as much as some tho...


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2003 4:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Ciaran

Great pic's !
I dont suppose you have any closeups of the River Barrow (Monasterevin) hilt ?

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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2003 6:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm not 100% sure which one you are referring to?


The camera Im using at teh moment isnt bad at all and Id be happy to teke snaps of a specific sword if you wish.


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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2003 7:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Iron sword, Tullylough, Co. Longford. Reg. No.: 39-1905

Iron sword, unprovenanced. Reg. No. (temporary): IA/240/1995

Iron sword, River Suck, near Ballinasloe, Co. Galway. Reg. No.: 2-1962

Iron sword, River Barrow near Monasterevin, Co. Kildare. Reg. No.: 96-1935


Hmmm The swords you were referring to as teh monisterevan sword? Would it be one of these ones with teh 45 degree downturned bulbous pommells thingys like in the corner of one of the shots (these are teh bad ones, there is a full one)



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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2003 9:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Ciaran

It's this one .....



Although fragmented it is an amazing piece ..... I'd luv some good closeups !

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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Tue 14 Oct, 2003 10:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ah yes, That one......errrr the one we mocked for about 10 minuites LOL........So the maker put this little pommell on and the guy who bought it brought it back and said, this needs more weight in the pommell, maker adds another pommell, sword gets fecked in bin by disgruntled owner and ends up in dublin museum.

Yep....Ill see what I can do for you....Prob not till saturday or the next but I should be able to get photos of the same detail as the ones of the other ring hilt Big Grin


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Oct, 2003 7:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Ciaran

Thank you ..... whatever you can do will be greatly appreciated !

There's more to this one than meets the eye ...... don't let it's present state fool you !

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Ah yes, That one......errrr the one we mocked for about 10 minuites LOL........So the maker put this little pommell on and the guy who bought it brought it back and said, this needs more weight in the pommell, maker adds another pommell, sword gets fecked in bin by disgruntled owner and ends up in dublin museum.

Yep....Ill see what I can do for you....Prob not till saturday or the next but I should be able to get photos of the same detail as the ones of the other ring hilt Big Grin


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Gabriel Stevens




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Oct, 2003 5:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Is there a story behind this one Mac? Can you share?
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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Tue 11 Nov, 2003 3:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just a bump....


My sword is in the process of manufacture. Here are some piccies of it being made...



http://hellfireforge.com/forge06.php

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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Wed 12 Nov, 2003 4:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Another up date...

The sword is gonna be bigger then originally requested...The smith had beaten the sword out and it was longer then expected but seemed to still handle well at its current length. He contacted me off the bat and asked if I would want a larger version or to stick to the intended size, It could always be chopped down but the current length just seemed right, completely by accident...The idea intrigued me so I said what the hey...lets make it bigger so long as it can still be wielded with one hand and not an exclusive two hander...

Tho of course huge ring hilts are not unknown....




So things change...

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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov, 2003 3:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

LOL a little bump...

The guys who are making the sword for me @ hellfire forge have some wonderfull projects in the works...




This scull pommell is part of a pirate cutlass they are making.


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov, 2003 5:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Ciaran,
Definately keen to see how this one turns out,
Do you have a rough,ETA,
On Hellfire's site the tang construction pic shows the pommel and crossguard welded to prevent movement,
Will your sword also feature this or have you discussed anything different,
Some nice gear on their site,
Best,
Lee.
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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov, 2003 8:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just to note the Skull isnt mine (I wish it was tho :-) )


I dont believe it will be welded on at all. I had not discussed this yet but I will :-P

Where on the site did you see that??


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Lee O'Hagan




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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov, 2003 9:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Ciaran,
I found the pic under tang construction on the site,
I downsized it to post below,
I didnt mean for the post to read as if the fittings were purely just welded on,
I dont think that is the case at all,it looks like the welds just take the place of the internal pinning fashion of keeping the fittings tight before handle assembly, on the example shown
but in saying that it could be down to my dodgy eyesight,
That skull looks pretty cool,



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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Tue 25 Nov, 2003 2:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ah yea...I pondered over how that sword was constructed...I'll ask the horses mouth and see..

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Nov, 2003 7:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I believe that sword made for stage combat, and done that way for added strength.
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Ciaran Flanagan




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PostPosted: Tue 25 Nov, 2003 7:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Them be scary spikey hilt ends on that thing...


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Earl Blackmore





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PostPosted: Tue 25 Nov, 2003 2:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Howdy people. That particular sword was indeed a stage combat blade. We welded the snot out of the guard, and pommel, and then annealed the welds to give the quillons and pommel a little reinforcement. We usually file fit the guard, and then either thread the end of the tang, or put a square hole through the pommel to keep it from being able to twist and then peen the tang. That sword had the tang all the way through the pommel and welded top and bottom. I was going to put all the different methods we use on the tang construction site, but got kinda busy and havent added any new pics. With the step by step photo sessions we are going to put up, it should be pretty easy for people to see how we put things together.(At least thats the idea anyway) I like people to know what kind of things we do, and how we do it. Hope everyone enjoys the site.
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