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Timo Nieminen




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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jan, 2016 1:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tom King wrote:
on the 3 ~15th-17th century complete suits (infantry style harnesses, not the 80lb gunpowder era cavalry suits mind you) I was lucky enough to examine, the answer is "thin". ~18-20ga lacquered metal.[...]

for the weapons they faced for the first 9/10ths of the history of feudal japan, it was entirely adequate.


There are Edo Period breastplates this thin (about 1mm of steel/iron, + lacquer). Also normal enough for lamellae (maybe thick for lamellae), splints on arms and legs, etc. But note that a lamellar breastplate will be 4 lamella thicknesses thick overall.

A 1mm breastplate doesn't stop arrows, so isn't adequate until the bow largely disappears from the battlefield.

"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jan, 2016 1:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Pieter B. wrote:
Do you know if they broke up the blooms while still hot from the bloomery to consolidate them or did they let the entire piece cool first before taking a chisel to it?


The bloom is removed while still hot, but not glowing. Still hot enough to burn the wooden rollers used to help move it. Then broken into smaller pieces with a large drop hammer. Broken down smaller with sledgehammers. Don't know whether they consolidate the pieces then, or cool and sort. That's the modern process. I don't know when they started using drop-hammers.

Removing and breaking the bloom, at about 23-25 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs-T5qYA1Qg

Description: https://books.google.com.au/books?id=CGZPvLkmP3IC&pg=PA65&lpg=PA65

Some drop-hammers: https://www.hitachi-metals.co.jp/e/tatara/nnp0107.htm

"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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