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Len Parker





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PostPosted: Wed 01 Oct, 2014 12:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think it was Mart who posted this site on AA. http://www.roma-victrix.com/armamentarium/loricae_muscolate.htm
If that Samnite breastplate is 30cm high, that would make it about 11 1/4" or slightly more at the chest.
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Oct, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Republican Roman Armour         Reply with quote


A soldier from the Roman Republic during the Punic Wars. I believe that the equipment carried by every Roman Republic soldier varies accordingly.

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Oct, 2014 3:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Since nobody has posted primary-source imagery of unarmoured Romans, I suppose it'd do no harm to put these up from the triumphal arch in Orange even though they're a little late for the Republic:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...taglia.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...tonord.jpg
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Dan Howard




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PostPosted: Mon 27 Oct, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Elliot R. wrote:
"...but those who are rated at a property qualification of above 10,000 drachmae wear instead a coat of chain-mail (lorica)." (Polybius, Histories 6.23)

Didn't Polybius write in Greek? Lorica is a latin term. I thought Polybius used the term halusidoton but don't have the source to hand. Does anyone have access to the original Greek?

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Nov, 2014 3:15 am    Post subject: Republican Roman Armour         Reply with quote

Here's the access to Polybius' Histories (Left - Polybius' original in ancient Greek; right - N. D. Triandafyllopoulos' modern Greek translation):
http://www.greek-language.gr/Resources/ancien...ature/part

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Nov, 2014 4:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I got a 404 Not Found error on that page, but Perseus has it.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=...99.01.0233

The phrase is ἁλυσιδωτοὺς θώρακας (halusidotos thorax) [6.23.15], which means something like "armour wrought in chain fashion", which sounds like mail to me. As Elliot said, the passage certainly suggests that mail was expensive - only those with a qualification above ten thousand drachmas (μυρίας δραχμὰς) were required to wear it. It was definitely more expensive than the bronze καρδιοφύλαξ ("heart protector") that the other soldiers were required to wear.

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