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Dean F. Marino




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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jun, 2014 6:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Bryan Heff wrote:
I see now and am instantly reminded that Dean you have mentioned this construction method on DSAs before. So the nut and washer are screwed onto a threaded (or partially threaded) tang and sit against the grip...then the pommel is placed on over the nut. My question how is the pommel then fixed? Is it also threaded or is it slid on the remaining tang and peened in a traditional way?


I think it is screwed on AND peened, more for visual effect than function...


EXACTLY so Happy, When I use a safety nut, I go through a 4 step process:

1) Use 2 ton epoxy in conjunction with a grip core that has been ROUTED out for a good, tight "square-ish" fit to the tang...
2) Add a washer, THEN a nut with Red Loctite. Allow this to exert force on the grip for 24 hours...
3) Add the pommel + Epoxy 24 hours later... get it good & snug, but do not depend on the POMMEL to provide all of the compression force on the grip.
4) A day later, cold peen - and this IS primarily for aesthetics.

That final "cosmetic peen" (for lack of a better term) is NOT restricted to DSA's... the Gen2 Dordogne I recently rebuilt also used a thread-peen combination. I'm seeing more of this, and really wish we had the vocabulary to distinguish between an end peen designed for structural integrity, vs a much shallower cosmetic peen.

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jun, 2014 6:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michael B. wrote:
Alrighty, confirmed. It was a washer over a nut, I couldn't get the nut out though, it does appear to be deeper than a standard nut though.



I will get some additional thickness measurements probably tomorrow.


Oh, Michael? Now that the pommel is off - if you heat the nut area with a propane torch to about 250F? You will break down the Epoxy holding the nut in - and can extract the nut with a set of needle nose pliers Happy.

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb, 2015 12:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

For the benefit of full disclosure, I ended up buying the sword. I'm going to de construct it further, but I was inspired by the blade and will be building something off of it.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Feb, 2015 10:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:
Michael B. wrote:
The blade is 0.25" thick at the base, thinning to 0.08" at the tip.



Could you please take one or two more thickness measurements, 25%, 50%, 75% down the blade? That would tell us a lot more about the blade geometry.

Thanks Happy


Were you ever able to take those blade thickness measurements?
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Feb, 2015 2:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Base: 0.25"
25%: 0.19"
50%: 0.18"
75%: 0.14"
Tip: 0.08"

Blade width:

Base: 1.85"
25%: 1.68"
50%: 1.47"
75%: 1.14"
0.05" from Tip: 0.21"

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Thanks for posting those specs. It looks like DSA has gotten serious about this aspect.
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