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Mikko Kuusirati
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Posted: Tue 03 Dec, 2013 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Also, what kind of grip and tang are you going to make? An exposed full tang sandwhiched between riveted slabs like on virtually all dagger size historical ones I know of, or a more conventional sword-like grip with an enclosed tang like you see on some of the larger ones? I think either could be within reason, considering the overall proportions of the weapon...
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Kerry Stagmer
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Posted: Tue 03 Dec, 2013 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Mikko, Since the profile is CNC cut to shape I can alter it to either form without issue. That part is fairly easy and I'm sure we will do both.
I cut 5 more blanks this way already , I'll make the additional ones for slabs.
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Kerry Stagmer
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Mikko Kuusirati
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Chad Arnow
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Posted: Tue 03 Dec, 2013 7:21 am Post subject: |
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The pair from Bonham's is listed as being "in the style of" which is usually the term reserved for reproductions.
ChadA
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Mikko Kuusirati
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Posted: Tue 03 Dec, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Chad Arnow wrote: | The pair from Bonham's is listed as being "in the style of" which is usually the term reserved for reproductions. |
Christie's describes them as "AN ITALIAN DETACHED BLADE FOR A LARGE CINQUEDEA; AND ANOTHER, IN EARLY 16TH CENTURY STYLE; THE FIRST CIRCA 1510-20, THE SECOND 19TH CENTURY". I'm fairly sure it's the same pair.
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— Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum
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Kerry Stagmer
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Posted: Tue 03 Dec, 2013 8:51 am Post subject: |
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None of the tangs I am seeing really explain the slab handle form. Maybe that form just doesn't end up broken in a way we can see one. I am seeing exposed metal, that I assume is the tang. Perhaps there is a metal fitting the shape of the handle that the tang fits up into.
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G Ezell
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Posted: Thu 05 Dec, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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I suspect what we are seeing here is a 'framed' handle type assembly like seen on later Sheffield bowies. Very interesting.
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Mikko Kuusirati
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Posted: Fri 06 Dec, 2013 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Just a guess, mind, but I think there might be several kinds of constructions used: a framed or enclosed tang for the ones with solid guards, and a full slab tang on the ones with riveted sandwhich guards.
"And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
— Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum
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