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Timo Nieminen
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Posted: Fri 05 Jul, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Scott Roush wrote: | Why did you not include this quite long example? |
Maybe 4cm wide, or less. Not wide in proportion to the length like the "broadswords" shown above.
Double fullers are common enough on bronze jian. The dagger-length one up-thread is not exceptional. All sorts of blade cross-sections on bronze jian. Hexagonal, diamond, octagonal, double-fullered (which is the octagonal with concave surfaces along the ridge), round ridge with edges (like a lot of bronze spears), lenticular, and lenticular with ridge. Much less diversity in early iron/steel jian cross-sections.
"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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Matthew G.M. Korenkiewicz
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Posted: Sat 06 Jul, 2013 10:02 am Post subject: |
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I'm no expert on Chinese swords, and I I've been calling these " Chinese broadswords "
just for ease's sake, as they are swords and do seem broad ... B-) Length, from a bit I've
read, seems to be anywhere from knife-length, to a reasonably sized shortsword ... I'd
guess 17 - 25 inches ...
Another pic with a variety of sizes ...
SR, I hope you post pics and progress on your Chinese Bronze Sword project, should be
very interesting to see the results ...
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Timo Nieminen
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Posted: Sat 06 Jul, 2013 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Matthew G.M. Korenkiewicz wrote: | I'm no expert on Chinese swords, and I I've been calling these " Chinese broadswords "
just for ease's sake, as they are swords and do seem broad ... B-) Length, from a bit I've
read, seems to be anywhere from knife-length, to a reasonably sized shortsword ... I'd
guess 17 - 25 inches ... |
I just call them "bronze jian" ("Chinese broadsword" is used by the modern martial arts community to mean oxtail dao, or dao in general). Also, I don't think they're especially broad. Average is, I guess, about 4.something cm, so, e.g., at the narrow end of Roman gladii. We don't call the Roman gladius a "Roman broadsword", and, on average, they're broader (and longer).
Lengths are very variable. The disc pommel ones vary from 30cm to 70cm; 50-55cm appears to be most common; the 65-70cm examples stand out as unusual. Tanged ones and other hilt/pommel types are, on average, shorter (there are more in the dagger range, 25-40cm (10-16") total length), but there are some very long (i.e., about 70cm) tanged blades.
"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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