Surviving 14th century arming garment? -- myArmoury.com

Mark Shier · Industry Professional

I was reading a recent article on the Sutton Hoo should clasps, and came across this:
"a 14th century gambeson, now in Munich, which was fastened with hinged metal fittings on the shoulder straps." The reference for this was: P. Post, "Ein Panzerfragment aus der Fruhzeit der Brigantine', Zeitschrift fur Historische Waffen-und Kostumekunde, n.f. 8/9 (1943), 225-39, abb.7.
Any ideas on what this really is/was?
Mark

Chris Kerr · Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject:

Not familiar with that one, Mark, though I'm super curious now; have you seen this one (Spanish from c.1385)?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39465793@N05/set...331135867/

Chris

Mark Shier · Industry Professional

That's a good set of pictures of Dom Joao's coat armour. I don't think he would have been too happy being called Spanish- he was Portuguese:)

Chris Kerr · Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2013 8:53 pm Post subject:

Oh no! Of course he was. I blame late nights online ....

Daniel Granath · Posted: Thu 21 Mar, 2013 3:05 pm Post subject:

There is one (or two?) from Lübeck. Can´t find the link. Anyone who has a link?

Mark Shier · Industry Professional

The Lubeck garment is hundreds of years later than the 14th C.

Randall Moffett · Posted: Fri 22 Mar, 2013 4:15 am Post subject:

A hundred years later, not quite hundreds. It is from the 1470s or so from the last description up I though.

He for sure would not like being called Spanish....

RPM

Mikael Ranelius

Chris Kerr · Posted: Sat 23 Mar, 2013 9:11 am Post subject:

My understanding is that this is a mis-translation, and this was actually an armour, a COP or a brigandine, *not* a gambeson. I'll check for references.