Posts: 208 Location: Grovetown, GA
Tue 04 Dec, 2012 9:42 pm
| Ryan Renfro wrote: |
| Darrin Hughes wrote: | | I enjoyed Arnie as Conan in 'Barbarian' but Destroyer showed that he could be bloody awful as well. For me it was Milius who made it work, something the later failed attempts would seem to bear out. |
Agreed. Conan the Barbarian was a great film because of: Milius’ direction, Basil Poledouris’ score, Schwarzenegger’s acting (or should that be his lack of acting?) and the swords by Jody Samson and Ron Cobb.
Take away Jon Milius and you get Conan the Destroyer.
Take away Poledouris, Samson and Cobb and you get Red Sonya.
Take away Schwarzenegger and all you are left with is Kull the Conqueror. |
Agree with all of the above... I'm hopefully they will pull off something awesome... but jaded and skeptical as well.
Posts: 3,646 Location: Midwest
Wed 05 Dec, 2012 7:10 am
Sounds good in the early promotions, let's hope the execution is good as well.
Posts: 717 Location: Winchester, VA
Wed 05 Dec, 2012 7:29 am
Hmmm. I would suspect that Oliver Stone brought more to the script to Arnold's Conan the Barbarian than Milius. Hopefully we'll get a good writer for this new one.
Posts: 580 Location: Pennsylvania USA
Wed 05 Dec, 2012 8:17 am
i was hoping that the film was going to be about the older Conan. the comics i remember reading back in the 80's were all about Conan being an older gray haired man adventuring around still getting respect was he woop some little punk around. portraying Conan as the older man you have much more room for dimension in the character - this could just be a simple action movie stuck with crude lines and catch phrases - but there's so much more opportunity to make it something better than just chop this guy and chop that guy.
i swear if the film shows a plastic prop sword as their main piece i'm going to throw up. the film wouldn't need to be brute to the max, or try to top the gore factor of the originals (something i think hollywood attempted to do with the latest Rambo) there's room for a good story - and go good looking film.
Posts: 1,265 Location: Malaysia
Sat 16 Mar, 2013 6:28 am
New Conan movie starring Schwarzenegger 2014
By 2014 Schwarzenegger will be 66 but that doesn't stop him from playing the role as Conan due to his age.
I hope the new Conan movie will be a blast next year just like the 2011 remake starring Jason Momoa.
Posts: 180
Sat 16 Mar, 2013 9:18 am
| Harry Lindfors wrote: |
There are actually original stories by R.E. Howard, where Conan is already an older king, feeling the weight of his years, and the scars of his many battles. He is still an awe-inspiring figure, older and wiser, yet still powerful and merciless in battle.
If they choose to go this way in the upcoming movie it's gonna be great. Also, give Ahnuld some credit! He's actually a pretty smart guy, and I really don't think he would re-visit this iconic role of his, if the the script wasn't good. I'm sure they learned something from that disastrous "re-boot" from last year(fingers crossed). |
Boy, everything seems to need a sequel or a prequel. The first Conan was the only one I could halfway stomach, Sandahl Bergman helping me there. If they can make him an older war-weary king looking to end his days as a warrior king on his way to Valhalla and they keep the silly corn out of it, well, maybe. Hollywood can't seem to hit the mark with these kinds of movies though.
But It wouldn't be out of place to be an old war-scarred king in battle. Brian Boru for instance was by all accounts a super-badass, and died at age 79 at the battle of Clontarf in 1014, along with most of his relations, although accounts of how he died differ. Something along those lines would be cool, to me anyway. But Hollywood's record being what it is, I am not optimistic. They will probably find a way to ruin it.
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Fri 31 Jan, 2014 12:19 am
Posts: 1,082 Location: Finland
Fri 31 Jan, 2014 2:26 am
As long as it's not yet another damn "character story" about Saving The World, I'll be at least partly satisfied.
Not holding my breath, though...
Posts: 399 Location: Slovakia
Fri 31 Jan, 2014 2:34 am
Conan was not "saving" the world. He was conquering it :)
well, let´s keep our fingers crossed...
Posts: 1,606 Location: Chicago, Illinois
Fri 31 Jan, 2014 10:01 am
I'm sure Hollywood will find a way to screw it up, but I'll still see it. I just hope they have the good sense in this movie to have Conan punch out a camel!
Posts: 1,082 Location: Finland
Fri 31 Jan, 2014 3:43 pm
| Tim Lison wrote: |
| I'm sure Hollywood will find a way to screw it up, but I'll still see it. I just hope they have the good sense in this movie to have Conan punch out a camel! |
You know, Howard's Conan was not exactly a nice guy, overall, but slapstick comedy by way of casual and pointless cruelty to animals is seriously not a thing I'd expect from him.
But then, the cinematic "Conan" has never born any real resemblance to the original character (although Momoa was a step in the right direction, and the kid who played him in the intro was getting damn close to perfect until the script dictated that he stop being awesome) so, I dunno, whatever.
Posts: 443 Location: Reston, VA
Fri 31 Jan, 2014 11:39 pm
I agree completely with Mikko that the movie versions of Conan are so far off the mark from the Howard books.
I always thought they took the Conan character from Howard and turned him into a bubblegum version for the movies. The Conan character in the movies is nothing like the original.
Posts: 5,739 Location: Wichita, Kansas
Sat 01 Feb, 2014 2:45 am
It's not just Conan. Hollywood seems incapable of successfully translating any of Howards characters to the movie screen. I don't think they have anyone who will take the material seriously. Howards work needs it's own Peter Jackson to champion it.
Posts: 1,082 Location: Finland
Sat 01 Feb, 2014 8:05 am
| Patrick Kelly wrote: |
| It's not just Conan. Hollywood seems incapable of successfully translating any of Howards characters to the movie screen. |
True - Solomon Kane got character assassinated about as hard, Kull had to do with a rightfully rejected and nominally revised Conan script (irony!) and Red Sonya has never been seen outside her debut story (Red Sonja is a completely different character created by Marvel Comics).
I still say the best Conan movie so far is The Sword and the Sorcerer, and the best Howardian movie 13th Warrior (it honestly feels like a genuine thematic sequel to "The Road of Azrael" or one of his other historical adventures).
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| I don't think they have anyone who will take the material seriously. Howards work needs it's own Peter Jackson to champion it. |
Yeah, seriously, what a Howard adaptation really needs are a writer, a director and a producer (just one of each! ONE!) who actually know and care about the source material beyond just lifting some names from it. Bring Momoa back - he has the acting chops, the physique, the moves, the presence and actually studied for the role unlike anyone on the production team - and give him better material to work with. Maybe gut an executive or two. NO SAVING THE WORLD PLOT, NO ORIGIN STORY, NO INDENTURED BADASSITUDE. Resurrect Polidouris for the score. Get Weta on the props, whatever it costs. Andy Serkis must play a giant ape (and/or possibly a giant serpent, I'm sure he could pull it off either way).
Posts: 395 Location: Upper Hutt, New Zealand
Sat 01 Feb, 2014 10:45 am
Sorry but if the Conan movies had their own Peter Jackson they would possibly be even further from the source material and even miss the themes of the books while gutting and changing all the characters because the movie makers think they know better than the original author.
Posts: 5,739 Location: Wichita, Kansas
Sat 01 Feb, 2014 1:21 pm
| Paul Watson wrote: |
| Sorry but if the Conan movies had their own Peter Jackson they would possibly be even further from the source material and even miss the themes of the books while gutting and changing all the characters because the movie makers think they know better than the original author. |
I was not attempting to make a direct comparison, but rather that the material needs a serious director to take it seriously.
Posts: 92 Location: The Redneck Riviera
Sat 01 Feb, 2014 1:59 pm
| Patrick Kelly wrote: |
| It's not just Conan. Hollywood seems incapable of successfully translating any of Howards characters to the movie screen. I don't think they have anyone who will take the material seriously. Howards work needs it's own Peter Jackson to champion it. |
A Peter Jackson interpretation would be interesting!
Posts: 1,265 Location: Malaysia
Wed 30 Apr, 2014 8:41 pm
New Conan movie starring Schwarzenegger 2014
We will never know when will the new Conan movie, The Legend of Conan, start its production. However, the writers and producers have been confirmed.
Posts: 25
Thu 01 May, 2014 6:20 am
It should feel like we are in hyboria, not another kevin sorbo tv POS.
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Posts: 625 Location: Louisiana / Nordrhein-Westholland
Thu 01 May, 2014 12:35 pm
| Daniel Wallace wrote: |
| and i know it would be a tall order to ask but bring back the original sword! |
Yes, and bring back the original Poledouris soundtrack!
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