Dome riveted maille vs wedge riveted. -- myArmoury.com

S. Sebok · Posted: Wed 17 Oct, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject:

Well at least I got one piece of historical maille. I may pick up a GDFB maille hauberk wedge riveted with flat punched rings. The holes I read in that one thread Dan linked to said that maille is made using a drift rather than a punch and is flat on one side. That would solve my issue of it catching on my gambeson and cutting myself when I put it on. Now to find wedge riveted chausses, though my current ones are the ones that lace in the back and don't pull nearly as much as they're put on from the front and don't slide on.

Randall Moffett · Posted: Wed 17 Oct, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject:

Does any one sell links and rivets that are close to historic? From what I have seen I'd say no. Maybe Eric sells them? I'd be willing to make my own mail items but not my own links and rivets.... been there and done that. No thank you. My plan in the long run is Eric but in the mean time I have an indian one. As to it ripping up aketons.... why not use a sand blaster or something? There has to be something that can soften them up. Mine really is not that bad so not sure what every one is having an issue with.

RPM

S. Sebok · Posted: Wed 17 Oct, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject:

I could try that but I'm additionally fed up with the fact half the rivets aren't solid, usually the maille fails at the rivet point and I'd say solid links are more structurally stronger than the riveted links. Guess I am just nit picking for accuracy again but then again it's all for practical reasons rather than accuracy. I am well aware indian made maille is nothing like the historical stuff, my main concern is whatever is lighter and doesn't scratch me up when I put it on. What I get for making an impulsive purchase back in 2010.

Johan Gemvik · Posted: Wed 17 Oct, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject:

I was thinking of buying one of those bags of GDFB 6mm roman maille with 50/50 riveted and solids and make my own rivets and see how accurate it can be made with that kit as a base.
The rings won't have the driifting though, not sure it'd work with a back inserted cone then. For solids I'd use my drop forged ones so they're rounded like on the Gjermundbu.

S. Sebok · Posted: Thu 18 Oct, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject:

Heres how the inside of GDFB wedge riveted maille looks. Rather flat and more similar to the Erik Schmid stuff that I currently own. Not sure if I can find a pic of how the other side looks though I probably could ask around.

Heres how my Erik Schmid coif looks from both the inside and outside:

Johan Gemvik · Posted: Mon 22 Oct, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject:

On the subject of what historically accurate maille looks like, here's what drop forged rouned solids look like (Viking Gjermundbu maille size and style).

Having concentrated on perfecting the solid ring making process primarily my riveted rings aren't as consistent quality as Eriks yet, hardly surprising as I don't make them for a living.

As for gdfb pre-made roman maille rings for riveting I've decided to try and see what I can make with those as a base but with my cone rivet system and my own solids. I'm ordering some bags of those after I get my next salary in a few days from now. Should be quite interesting.

S. Sebok · Posted: Sat 06 Jul, 2013 12:00 am Post subject:

So this indian maille manufacturer by the name of www.romanhandicraft.com contacted me on both deviant art and facebook. He showed me this new type of maille they're developing which heres a pic of it. Quite frankly I have no clue how to react to this but it looks a LOT better than whats on the market now, the rings are somewhat ovoid shaped and the rivets are wedge riveted but with the round protruding head, they even got the overlap the right way. Needless to say he said he would send me more pics of what they are offering later on, they haven't got a hauberk of it yet but they do have samples. He kept saying it was similar in quality to Erik Schmid's stuff which from this one pic it does look rather nice, it's 16 gauge as well and not overly flat with the overlap and my only complaint is i'd prefer it with alternating flat punched rings to be period to the 13th century but other than that I actually like how this stuff looks.

Burton Cutler · Posted: Sun 04 Aug, 2013 10:45 am Post subject:

Was there any info on when this mail will be ready to purchase and who sells it ?

S. Sebok · Posted: Sun 04 Aug, 2013 2:42 pm Post subject:

Erik Schmid messaged me about it, he said it was HIS maille that were samples he made for another company that they were selling off as their own maille. So there really is no maille thats being made by indian companies thats new. Thankfully he warned me before I made any purchase so sorry to bring disappointment but at least he said he's getting his maille made there eventually, though it will cost a bit.

Burton Cutler · Posted: Sun 04 Aug, 2013 5:57 pm Post subject:

OK I emailed Romanhandicraft and just received this reply

Burton Cutler · Posted: Sun 04 Aug, 2013 5:59 pm Post subject:

One other pic was sent

Dan Howard · Posted: Sun 04 Aug, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject:

S. Sebok · Posted: Sun 04 Aug, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject:

Antonio Ganarini · Posted: Mon 05 Aug, 2013 1:52 am Post subject:

S. Sebok · Posted: Mon 05 Aug, 2013 3:44 am Post subject:

Antonio Ganarini · Posted: Tue 06 Aug, 2013 3:01 am Post subject:

Thank you, really!!
I'll read that thread immediately!

Stephen Law · Posted: Sun 04 May, 2014 7:56 am Post subject:

Here is a photo of the Gjermundbu ring shirt. I took this at the Oslo History Museum in 2012. One can clearly see the solid rings.

Eric S · Posted: Sun 04 May, 2014 11:31 pm Post subject:

Dan Howard · Posted: Mon 05 May, 2014 1:03 am Post subject:

You can just make out the rivet on that link. On other exmples you can't see the rivets at all without an x-ray.

Eric S · Posted: Mon 05 May, 2014 6:43 am Post subject: