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Sorry for the low resolution of this scan. I thought some of you might be interested in seeing people fighting with and behind pavises. [Pay no attention to the nude mixed bathing on the left side ;)]

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp51/gcoff...an0012.jpg
That is a realy good picture ! I like to see the painting in original size
Mike, do you bend or carve the middlepiece?
Hello,

Every original pavaise I looked at, are carved. I never seen a 15. century pavaise who are bend... do you know a piece like that?

Our " standart model " is build like the typical late 15century pavaise. The are two boards from fir for the sides. Then I carve the half round shape for the middle piece out of a lime bar. This is the way like the originals made I examined. Most of the originals are made from different kinds of wood. Fir for the boards and lime for the halfpipe are very comon.
Then I put the side boards with wooden nails on the halfpipe. At last I give the pavaise the shape wit axt and file.
Mike G wrote:
That is a realy good picture ! I like to see the painting in original size


Unfortunately, this image burned down in 1945.
Itīs a shame ! bloody war .
Do you know if is anywere a bigger foto from that painting ? I think that painting with all the details is great. In the middle I see one fighter with a pavaise and another without armour who fighting a sword to handed. I am right ? I never see something before in a painting like that
Germans did a lot of good pictures of this image. Search Bildindex.de. The picture was in Gdansk (Danzig) and shows the siege of Malbork (Marienburg).

Btw
Red army burned the image as fuel (winter).
Here can you see, the the shiny linseed oil coating.( the closeup picture ) It need just about 10 days to dry. But it works very well and makes the pavaise relatively waterproof.
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Here you can see some action photos of our pavaises. When we use our cannon ;)
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Linseed oil is great for coating. Mike G., your pavaises look exceptionally well made. The ten day wait period is well worth the outcome it seems. Well done my friend, well done.
i must say those pavaises really look amazing mike! i'm definetly intersted to see your pictures of how you carve out the middle!
Thanks a lot that you enjoyed my work :)

Next time I when I will carve out middle pieces I will make some pictures. It is not so hard that it might to be. It needs just a lot of time.

Bet regards

Mike
Mike G wrote:
Thanks a lot that you enjoyed my work :)

Next time I when I will carve out middle pieces I will make some pictures. It is not so hard that it might to be. It needs just a lot of time.

Bet regards

Mike


Do you use gouges
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=...at=1,41131

or

something like this scoop adze?

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=...at=1,41131
Hello, both of them ( and some other tools )

But the scoop adze I just need at the start of the backpiece. Most of the work is done with a very sharp little axe, gouges,and a plane

Best regards

Mike
Thanks Mike!

I thought it might be a combination of gutter adze for the rough work and gouges for the finish. I haven't carved the centre post out on one of these yet but it is the logical solution. I'm tired of coopering 14thC shields and am trying to learn more about Northern pavises. Thanks for your response!
Are there any finds or paintings of hand-held pavises from the end of the 14:cent?
Polyptych Grudziądz ( http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliptyk_Grudzi%C4%85dzki )
around 1400
Typical Y-shaped grip (see a fragment)

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Mike G.

Wow! That's some amazing work! Question on the linseed oil finish though.

Is that boiled linseed oil or raw?
Ben Holman wrote:
Mike G.

Wow! That's some amazing work! Question on the linseed oil finish though.

Is that boiled linseed oil or raw?



thankīs a lot ;-)

Both will work. But the boiled one dryed a little bit faster I think

Best regards

Mike
hey mike, any chance of you already having some pictures of how you carve out the middle bar?

cheers!
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