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Thu 17 May, 2012 11:22 am

Japanese armour without lacing?

I found this picture of an ashigaru suit that, instead of lacing, just has panels of cloth with the plates attached.
http://hirasefamily.com/images/gusoku%20cannon%202.jpg
Was this done with some regularity on low end armour like this, or is this more of a one-off thing?

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Dan Howard

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Thu 17 May, 2012 2:54 pm

They also had various types of mail-and-plates. It would have been a good solution to all the problems that lamellar had on campaign.

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Eric S

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Thu 17 May, 2012 6:19 pm

Re: Japanese armour without lacing?

Jojo Zerach wrote:

This was one method of attaching armor to fabric, although kusari (chain armor) was usually used between the armor plates.

Here is an haidate (thigh armor) constructed with the same method.
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Jojo Zerach

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Thu 17 May, 2012 6:45 pm

Thanks the info.
Was this typically a feature of cheaper armour?

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Eric S

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Thu 17 May, 2012 11:56 pm

Jojo Zerach wrote:

Thanks the info.
Was this typically a feature of cheaper armour?

Jojo, I cant remember ever seeing a Japanese armor that was made this way that wasnt a lower class armor, here is what Anthony Bryant has to say about it on his web site.

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Tatami Dô: Tatami means “folding.” These are the armours often seen being worn by faceless hordes of low-ranking retainers in samurai films. The plates are business-card sized rectangles, hexagons, or combinations of shapes. The plates are interconnected by mail and stitched down to a fabric backing. The cheapest of the cheap suits have the plates stitched directly to the fabric, with no interconnecting mail. The kusazuri can either be conventional plate and lace, or built as continuations of the folding method used in the dô.

http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/katchu.html
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Graham Shearlaw

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Wed 23 May, 2012 6:41 am

Jojo Zerach wrote:

Thanks the info.
Was this typically a feature of cheaper armour?

give the pains lacing can give you in the campaign,it is a great idea.
the down side is it a lot more plane looking.

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