Albion Knight photo request -- myArmoury.com

Paul B.G · Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2012 2:03 pm Post subject: Albion Knight photo request

If you can, can you please post a photo of the tip of your knight so I can compare it to mine as follows;
I don’t know but to me mine new knight tip looks to be more rounded and the blade is 79cm where it should be 80cm?

Phil D. · Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2012 2:50 pm Post subject:

You can see pics and review here:

http://www.myArmoury.com/review_alb_knight.html

Paul B.G · Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject:

Matt Corbin · Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject:

Albion Europe has some pretty good pictures on their Flickr page:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/albioneurope/sets/72157627547078364/

Matt Corbin · Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject:

And from the DBK Custom Swords website:

Matt Corbin · Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2012 5:27 pm Post subject:

And finally Cool

Check KOA as they have some decent Knight pics

http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=ANS4...ight+Sword

The angle is a little different on each of the pictures I've found. Yours looks pretty representative of the model though. Guess if you're really concerned you could contact Albion about it. It's a handmade object though and is bound to have some variation.

Paul B.G · Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2012 2:46 am Post subject:

Thanks Guys I appreciate all your inputs.

Over at SBG a member posted some good shots of his tip which I cut up and put next to mine, mine is in the middle.

Whilst mine doesn’t quite have as defined a point, I feel its more of a hand forged varance factor. I think im ok with it now, it was just all of the points I was seeing in the photos of Knights all had much more defined points compaired to mine, and with the 1cm diference it got me thinking. The points on the pics from BDK are really defined.

Thanks again

Paul B.G · Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2012 2:49 am Post subject:

But still mine is not a good example of an Albion Knight tip.

Luka Borscak · Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2012 4:24 am Post subject:

It is not important, but I would be more irritated by a loss of a 1cm than by the shape of a tip... Which does look like it was somehow messed during the grinding and than slightly reprofiled.

Jeremy V. Krause · Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2012 9:45 am Post subject:

Hi Paul,

I doubt this is much help but I like your knight's tip profile better than the others posted. Happy

Paul Watson · Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2012 11:11 am Post subject:

Paul I no longer own a Knight but the tip of mine was as identical to yours as two separate hand made peices could be. From recollection my blade was 80cm give or take a mm or two. It is clear your point differs from those you posted but the DBK photos are at an angle that greatly effects the appearance

Jean Thibodeau · Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject:

Paul B.G · Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject:

Thanks guys, I shot an email off to Albion yesterday to ask there opinion,

Cheers

Paul Watson · Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2012 9:09 pm Post subject:

Paul B.G · Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2012 11:05 pm Post subject:

Jonathon Janusz · Posted: Sun 11 Mar, 2012 8:51 am Post subject:

I'm digging out behind cobwebs in my brain on this one, but I thought I remembered a long while back that Albion revised the grind on the Knight tip slightly to the broader/more rounded version (like yours) fairly early in production as compared to the sharper/more pointed tip in some of the other photos. . . something about making the tip more durable I want to remember. . . kind of like the Regent blade went through a few minor revisions.

Albion, of course, will give you the best answer and I could (as likely as not) be completely wrong. . . so, "for what it is worth", and all that. . . Happy

. . . and there are going to variations due to the final result being a hand-done process, slight variations to be sure, but still each will be just a little bit different (unique is the better word). Most easy to start to notice if you get the chance to handle multiple examples of the same sword model. A few years ago, on one or two models, I could almost tell you who in the shop did the final grind just by picking one up and eyeballing it - each craftsman/artist puts their own little "signature" on each one when, if you have a pile of them to examine, you can start to see consistency in the variations, if that makes any sense,

Kinda fun to remember now that I think about it. Thanks!

Eric G. · Posted: Sun 11 Mar, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject:

Paul B.G · Posted: Mon 12 Mar, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject:

Hi Guys,

Thanks again for your input, I got the good work back from Mike at Albion regarding the shape of the tip and the 1cm discrepancy in blade length, “it is within our specs”, and there is going to be some differences depending on which person does the grinding etc.

It’s not that big an issue, as I said I feel it’s more of a hand forging (meaning grinding Happy

) factor. As ever I always have high expectations Wink

Cheers

Paul

Phil D. · Posted: Mon 12 Mar, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject:

In my opinion,I am disappointed in their answer.As a customer,you purchase the swords based on their specs and pictures.It is not for you to assume any variances(hence the cost).They should state such possible discrepancies in lengths and points clearly(it shouldn't be "within their specs" after they take your money)...that is quite a bit of money ,especially w/international shipping,to spend on the expectation of a sword based on a pic that may not be what you receive.After all,aren't there a few posts about Darksword for similar issues

Paul Watson · Posted: Mon 12 Mar, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject:

Phil I am pretty sure their website makes reference to variances. You just need to look at their pommels, grips etc to see many examles of this. All my Albions have had variances, but no flaws that I considered unnaceptable. For example my Knecht has a POB about 2cm further out than syayed but I have it on good authority that this is not detrimental to the swords handling and certainly well within historical examples
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