Hello,

I've done a search on the forum but still have not been able to come up with which type(s) of swords (if they can be classified under the Behmer typology, as it is the only Migration hilt classification I know of) were used in Eastern Europe during the Migration period. If someone could provide me with either a typology to base my understanding on or specific examples with blade dimensions, hilt construction I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

If I am able to gather enough information of a suitable sword that I do like I am hoping to commission a sparring/training sword to be made to accurately portray its handling characteristics.

Best regards,

Barrett Hiebert

AFAIK Behmer type IV's are associated with the Eastern Germanic tribes (such as the Goths) and are mostly found in Eastern Europe.

Hey,

Stephen thanks for the reply.

If anyone can cement this with actual proof of a blade of such type from eastern europe of a credible source I'd greatly appreciate it.

Best regards

Barrett Hiebert

Barrett,

If you look at the the attached chart in the third post of this thread

www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4405

As I recall all of the swords in group 4 were found in south Russia.

Hello,

Ah Stephen thanks for bringing up that link. I apologize for I may have confused you. When I was thinking of the type IV Behmer typology I was only thinking of the condensed Oakeshott Behmer Typology where it shows the type IV as being the shaped hilt swords as can be seen here above # 4. http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/behmer.htm An example being the Sutton Hoo sword.

I very much like all those types. But I am interested in the Type 3 since Paul Hansen's post 6th down labels the Type 3 being found in Romania (the country of my birth) in which I would like to reproduce any such known migration age weapon.

Though if anyone else could shed some light as to if any of the other Behmer type hilts/blades were used in the area of modern day Romania during the Migration period I'd greatly appreciate it! Preferably type 2, 5, 6, 8 as these are the types I am most interested in. I read through the thread (given by Stephen Curtin) detailing the findings of such hilt types and could find nothing.

Hopefully someone could help me out.

Best regards,

Barrett Hiebert

Try to find a copy of Das Schwert im Frühen Mittelalter by Wilfried Menghen. He presents another migration-ere typology. He focuses on Germany, might might show others slightly further afield (it's been awhile). It is written in German, and may be quite hard to find, but might be your best best for info.
I hope this helps,
Dan

Thanks for your post and your hard work Paul. But I've decided just to go with a type 6 like the one you instinctively agreed on with me in my other thread. :cool: They are by far the coolest looking to me and "being that they saw widespread use" on the continent that is enough reason for me. I've spent enough time researching trying to find that one blade that was used in Romania but no examples or enough of an example seem to exist. :\ Ah but it's not a big deal. Now all I have to do is find a appropriate late migration era shield... :p

Regards,

Barrett Hiebert

No problem! That's a beautiful shield. Do you know if he does custom work?

Barrett

Here's an interesting sword in Hungary. http://www.tforum.info/forum/index.php?autoco...mp;img=543 Would this be a stone disc pommel from the steppe? On the preceding plaque it mentions the vandali but I'm not sure it's pertaining to this sword.

Matthew Bunker:

PM sent. :D Beautiful work.

Barrett