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hmm, for the reenactor on a budget, would you say using plywood strips couls replace the ash planks? in australia its probably even more expensive,

so how did the guy made the rim,
What a fascinating project, and how well done! And the next one (ones?) should be even better. Kudos, sir!
William--do not use plywood!

Plywood is the single largest reason why academics and reenactors think these things weigh in at 12 kilos instead of ten pounds...

And you can't wet plywood and bend it, not trim it with a sharp knife, nor bend along grin lines...
and it's weak . Heavy plywood is very strong--but really light plywood isn't. That's experienctial--someone is welcome to tell me I'm wrong.

But the ash strips bend in 3 dimensions as they must to form the surface. i worry plywood would only bend in two dimensions.

Finally, the only reason to take on a project like this is to do it as close to "spot on" as you can, so that it can be used to test things in an experimental archaeology way. If not, I'd make the same shield out of laid up pine or poplar, sand it down with an angle grinder, and cover with broinze,. brass, leather, or linen. It's the same weight, almost as authentic, and MUCH easier if you don't have access to ash or willow strips.

There's directions on how to do this on my Hoplologia site.. Matt has directions, too.
Christian G. Cameron wrote:
We missed you at Marathon, Matt! We had 85.... but we'll do it again in 2014


Hoo, sounds fabulous!! Unfortunately there's no way I can even remotely afford to go, and wouldn't have the leave time from work even if I could. Waaaaa....

William, shop around for basket weaving supplies--they sell split oak strips, and might have or be able to produce ash strips. But like Christian says, this is probably the kind of project you want to work your way up to, unless you already have quite a bit of woodworking experience.

85, geez....

Matthew
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Just a couple of the better photos. The lower is the phalanx on Saturday, without 18 Spartans and without the UK hoplites, all of whom were Medeizing to we could have a fight...

and then there is this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHWCTgAjHvw

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Anyone seeing this, we're looking for 500 hoplites in 2014. Just send me a PM...
My GOD ! Both pics are great but the first one looks like a Renaissance painting painted by one of the top Masters. :surprised: :D :cool:

If I where you I would make or plan to make a coffee table book of as many of these quality pics you can make and combine it with the history of the period, military tactics and period and reproduction kit.

Coffee table giant sized book just on account of the beauty of the pics, if you can equal the quality of that first pic or even the second pic and actual content for us who would appreciate it. I would certainly buy it at anything below $200.
Really nice idea, and it seems to work well.

It's not really my field, but it looks like a really good job.
Christian, the video is just awesome... Wow! My wife saw the archer and then the one hoplite going down in the attack and meant: "Isn't that a bit harsh, using real arrows???" :D You should add something like "No spartans were harmed during filming..."

You guys rock!
The links to the photos in this thread are no longer active
Hi Christian,
I am most interested in your proposed reconstruction so I attempt to resurrect this thread.
Unfortunately, the links to the pictures of this step by step guide are now inactive, therefore I cannot deduce the method proposed.

Christian G. Cameron wrote:


There's directions on how to do this on my Hoplologia site.. Matt has directions, too.


Checking both these sites I found
http://www.hoplologia.org/aspis.html
and
http://www.larp.com/hoplite/hoplon.html

From what I concluded from your descriptions in this thread this is not a ring method for the Aspis reconstruction but a "boat-hull" one so it doesn't match the reconstructions in both these links.

Am I missing something that would be obvious had I access to the photos?

Regards,
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