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Mike W Grant
Location: UK, Exiled Scot in England Joined: 06 Feb 2011
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Hi All
i think this is posted in the correct place! Does anyone know of any good books detailing the history and make-up of the Scottish Targe, including the victorian copies/replicas!?
Cheers Mike
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Lin Robinson
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| Posted: Tue 08 Feb, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: Re: Book on Scottish Targes |
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| Mike W Grant wrote: | Hi All
i think this is posted in the correct place! Does anyone know of any good books detailing the history and make-up of the Scottish Targe, including the victorian copies/replicas!?
Cheers Mike |
Hello again Mike...
The only work that I know which is dedicated to targes is Highland Targets and Shields by James Drummond. This book was published in 1873 and is long out-of-print. However, it is available on CD ROM from Unicorn, Ltd., here in the US. It is paired with Drummond's more general work, Ancient Scottish Weapons. Their web site is www.scotpress.com. The illustrations on the CD are very clear and, while I have not done so, I suspect that printing them would result in decent hard copies. I am sure Rennie and Vickie will be glad to send you a copy if you email them.
If there is a modern book on targes I hope someone will fill us in. Also, if you will check the archives of this forum you will find a few threads on the subject.
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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Mike W Grant
Location: UK, Exiled Scot in England Joined: 06 Feb 2011
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Lin
Thanks again! OK I just ordered this via print and demand, would rather pay £10 than print out 130 pages it would cost me more in printer ink! 
Its surprising somone hasn't used his work to write a more up to date book! I guess there is little demand for it!?
Mike
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Lin Robinson
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| Mike W Grant wrote: | Lin
Its surprising somone hasn't used his work to write a more up to date book! I guess there is little demand for it!?
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My guess on that is there is an insufficient variety of extant targes to make it worthwhile. I do wish that someone would write a book on targes with more illustrations in color.
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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Mike W Grant
Location: UK, Exiled Scot in England Joined: 06 Feb 2011
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I think somone will come out with one at some point, just needs a bit of research and I know the Americans will buy it, they all want to be scottish...LOL 
Yes thats me in the picture and my beautiful Danish "Wife To Be"! Scotland + Denmark = Warrior Nation
"Stand Fast Creag Eileachaidh"
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GG Osborne
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As far as I know, The Swords and the Sorrows has the most color pictures of 17th and 18th C targes extant.
"Those who live by the sword...will usually die with a huge, unpaid credit card balance!"
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Kel Rekuta
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Not to cut into Scotpress.com' s sales but they are both public domain items. The University of California digitized the former title years ago. http://www.archive.org/details/highlandtargetso00drumrich
The second has not yet been archived from what I can find.
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Ed McV
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There is another book with 4 targes, one from the Queen's collection. "Highland Dress, Arms and Ornament" by Lord Archibald Campbell, first published in 1899 but reprinted in 1969.Also interesting sections on basket hilted broadswords.
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Bill Grandy
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I hadn't known that before... thanks, Kel!
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Lin Robinson
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I looked at the UC version online. The advantage for the Scotpress version is larger page size and less in the way of menus. Scotpress did high quality scans of their original copy to put out the CD-ROM version.
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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Mike W Grant
Location: UK, Exiled Scot in England Joined: 06 Feb 2011
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Anyone know how to download from the http://www.archive.org/details/highlandtargetso00drumrich site!"?
Thanks for the replies - looks like some reading is required!
Another question: how is the embossing done, as I've read several quotes on both embossing and carving. I understand the carving but embossing is difficult, would they have made up several moulds and then embossed into the leather, how did they manage to get the pressure to bite into the leather!?
Yes thats me in the picture and my beautiful Danish "Wife To Be"! Scotland + Denmark = Warrior Nation
"Stand Fast Creag Eileachaidh"
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Simon G.
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This is a standard topic
