Identification -- myArmoury.com

Brittany B, · Posted: Wed 01 Dec, 2010 3:32 pm Post subject: Identification

I am doing some conservation and research on this sword and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what kind of sword it is please? Please see attachment for photo of the sword and scabbard.

Jonathan Hopkins · Posted: Wed 01 Dec, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject:

It is a British Pattern 1821 Heavy Cavalry Officer's Sword. Based on the grip shape, I believe it dates no earlier than the 1890s. In 1896 this became the standard pattern for all cavalry officers regardless of cavalry type (heavy or light). The blade should have the cypher of the monarch of the period it was made. If VR (Victoria Regina) then it is Victorian, if ERVII (Edwardus Rex VII) then it is Edwardian, and if GRV (Georgius Rex V) then it dates to the early years of George V. Please post some additional photos if possible. Is there a maker or retailer's name on the blade? Perhaps the name or monogram of the original owner?

As far as conservation, I recommend reading this article before beginning: http://swordforum.com/articles/ams/conservation.php

All the best,
Jonathan

Brittany B, · Posted: Thu 02 Dec, 2010 10:41 am Post subject:

Thanks for your reply. I've attached more photos of the sword.

Brittany B, · Posted: Thu 02 Dec, 2010 10:43 am Post subject:

More photos.

Jonathan Hopkins · Posted: Thu 02 Dec, 2010 11:26 am Post subject:

Brittany,
How wonderful that it is a Wilkinson! Based on the serial number, 40875, it dates to the early years of the reign of Edward VII (between 1903-1906 according to OldSwords.com). The Wilkinson Proof ledgers still exist, and for a very reasonable fee one may learn the date of manufacture and often who bought the sword. Once the name of the original purchaser is obtained one can then research his career and learn about where the sword may have seen service. I highly recommend contacting www.ArmsResearch.co.uk to see if there is an entry for this sword.

Are you conserving the sword for a museum or for your own personal collection?

The leather strap is a sword knot and actually belongs on the sword and not the scabbard. Cavalry officers usually let the knot hang straight from the hilt whereas infantry officer would tie it up. For example...

...infantry:
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...cavalry (image from OldSwords.com):
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Brittany B, · Posted: Thu 02 Dec, 2010 12:46 pm Post subject:

Hi Jonathan,
wow! thanks so much. i really appreciate all of that information and I will follow up on your suggestions. i am doing a conservation masters and am conserving the sword as part of my training. it's not mine, but is from one of the local museums around where i live. thanks so much again!
Brittany

Jonathan Hopkins · Posted: Thu 02 Dec, 2010 1:00 pm Post subject:

Brittany,
If you are interested in learning more about this type of sword I recommend Swords of the British Army by Brian Robson (Revised Edition, 1996). I hope you will share your progress with us!

All the best,
Jonathan

Jonathan Hopkins · Posted: Thu 02 Dec, 2010 2:04 pm Post subject:

I just got home and had a chance to consult my books--your sword dates to 1906 (serial range 40700-41183).

Maurizio D'Angelo · Posted: Thu 02 Dec, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject:

Mr Jonathan,
his preparation is impressive about these swords.