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Joel Whitmore
Location: Simmesport, LA Joined: 25 Aug 2003
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I am not sure what classification this pommel is, but I sure love showing it off! Patrick Hastings made this for a custom Kevin Cashen peice (Anduril ). I think it demonstrates what a pommel can be when artistry and creativity are combined with a talented swordsmith. I want to tell those who don't know that Patrick H. carved this pommell out of a solid chunk of metal. Kevin Cashen then drilled it (carefully) and the whole thing attaches with a nut inside the pommell. Very ingenious design. Anyway, just showing off again 
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Roger Hooper
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Here is the pommel of the Albion Sovereign (type J or K?) holding a replica coin of Edward I
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Timothy Gulics
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Awesome coin. That's a verrry cool touch.
The sword is my companion.
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Jeremy V. Krause
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Roger,
That is really cool- and the coin matches the pommel very well. Jeremy
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Roger Hooper
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| Jeremy V. Krause wrote: | Roger,
That is really cool- and the coin matches the pommel very well. Jeremy |
Just for reference, a U.S. nickel will fit perfectly into the Sovereign's pommel recess. That is about 0.8 inches.
Below, the other side of the Edward I coin - it looks a little crooked, but luckily, it hasn't been cemented in yet.
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Lee Watts
Location: Wales, UK ,europe Joined: 25 Aug 2003
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| Roger Hooper wrote: | | Here is the pommel of the Albion Sovereign (type J or K?) holding a replica coin of Edward I |
hey roger lucky your replica edward the 1st penny is perfectly round;) . the one i found in kidwelly castle in west wales would never fit take a look at the odd shape.
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Thomas McDonald
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| Lee Watts wrote: | | Roger Hooper wrote: | | Here is the pommel of the Albion Sovereign (type J or K?) holding a replica coin of Edward I |
hey roger lucky your replica edward the 1st penny is perfectly round;) . the one i found in kidwelly castle in west wales would never fit take a look at the odd shape. |
Hi Lee
Gimmie a hammer ..... I'll make it fit !
;-) Mac
'Gott Bewahr Die Oprechte Schotten'
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Roger Hooper
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| Lee Watts wrote: | | Roger Hooper wrote: | | Here is the pommel of the Albion Sovereign (type J or K?) holding a replica coin of Edward I |
hey roger lucky your replica edward the 1st penny is perfectly round;) . the one i found in kidwelly castle in west wales would never fit take a look at the odd shape. |
I was thinking of using this replica coin from ArmArt, definitely not a perfect circle. The original comes from the town of Larissa, in Thessaly, Greece - the face is of the nymph, Larissa, and dates from around 350 BC. How could an ancient Greek coin find its way onto the pommel of a sword from circa 1300? Its a little far fetched, but there were plenty of Frankish knights travelling through or living in Greece around that time. If I came across that coin of Larissa, I'd definitely want to keep it.
But I don't think Larissa works out with this pommel. Ed's head is the way to go.
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Chad Arnow
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Sorry to dredge up this old thread, but I've recently come across two more Type W pommels, like what is seen on swords in the Royal Rmouries, Deutsches Klingenmuseum, and the Keinbusch collection in Philly.
One is from a 14th century dagger. The other from a 14th century sword auctioned at Sotheby's in June 2003.
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Text from Sotheby's catalogue
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Shae Bishop
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As far as I'm concerned, dredging is quite alright. I might have never seen this thread otherwise.
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Jonathan Harton
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Rogar, what grip color is that? Great idea with the coin by the way. I love XIV's as they are often just the right size and speed for my short stature.
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Roger Hooper
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| Jonathan Harton wrote: | | Rogar, what grip color is that? Great idea with the coin by the way. I love XIV's as they are often just the right size and speed for my short stature. |
It's what Albion calls campaign worn light brown. I think the shade can vary a bit according to the nature of the leather being used.
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Chad Arnow
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I stole Roger's idea and posted the results a while back. Here are those results :
A similar original coin and the repro:
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http://chadarnow.com/
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Roger Hooper
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I like the Albion Castellan pommel, a variant of type V.2
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Bruno Giordan
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longobard (verona)
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Clinton Harris
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A.V. Norman "The rapiar and small sword 1450-1850" is a great read for pommel types and dates.
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This is a standard topic